I think (for once) that he's right! coz, as a christian I cant believe sum1's comparing islamic religion with christianism, coz erm... england, is a really cool and developed country and is a christian country (anglican) and erm... i never see english ppl blowing up themselves so tht they can make love to i dunno how many virgens in the world, so christian ppl dont do crazy things... well..exepct burn HP books... but thats just sum ppl. and nobody dies of that
u know there's crazy ppl everywhere!!! but the christian church doenst say 'KILL PPL AND U'LL GO TO HEAVEN!!' c'mon!! u should read the bible sometime !!! in the rules of moises says 'dont kill' and of course that there will b some christians fanatics.. like in evry single religion!! well exepct perhpas they 'jedi' no offense to any1
no they just did that deed to destroy multiple cultures around the world in the name of the bible and the church. So christians wake up it is time you all took responsibility for what the so called holy church has done to the world
. i have had enough of that fairy tale, so an eye for an eye is from what book??????????
Actually, no finti. Eye for an eye comes from Babylonian ancient law passed by Hammurabi, law better known as Lex Talionis.
It has next to nothing to do with the bible.
I never read the bible, but i believe that bible preaches that if someone does something wrong to you, you turn the other cheek. That doesnt mean that everyone follows, however.
Im not religious person, if anything, im Buddhist, but I fail to see how direct attack on Christianity is explaining ''is Islam holding Arab Nations Back'' debaite.
Its absolutely wrong to drag crusades into this conversation, because such things as Ottoman empire should be talked about all the same. Just because it didnt affect your history it doesnt mean it didnt happen.
I dont think it matters what happened in the past, I think the debaite is asking wether the Arab Countries are held back by Islam today.
Also debaiting on whos crazier Christians or Muslims is also just a dumb, it has nothing to do with the argument, and it is well known that all religious nuts, regardless of their religion are as bad as each other.
People use religion to go to war, its a well known fact, and it isnt the first time it happened. Christians have done some nasty thigs to their people they believed were witches, or those who opposed or any kind of different people were blamed for all the wrongs, no one denies that.
But the one upside to Christian countries in the west, is that unlike in Arabic countries, homosexuals are not publicly stoned to death.
This was brought on by those religious nuts who get in power and pass dumb laws.
Then again, America is a Christian country, and the only one in the whole industrialized world that still enforces capital punishment.
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في هذا العالم ثلاثة أشخاص أفسدوا البشرية : راعي غنم , طبيب و راكب الجمال , و راكب الجمال هو أسوأ نشال و أسوأ مشعوذ بين الثلاثة
KidRock> “The fact of the matter is...you dont see any christians hijacking plans or blowing themselves up..”
IRA and the Basque separatists also commit acts of terror. I do see a “Christian” president start a war against Iraq based on a lie – I don’t know which is worse to be frank.
Fanaticism is the problem. Be it Christian, Muslim or vegetarian for that matter. When people go to extreme based on an idea which not everyone agree with or believe - THAT’s when the trouble starts.
__________________ "Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities."
-Voltaire
"That includes ruining Halloween because someone swallowed a Bible."
"I just thought you were a guy."
"... Most guys do."
Aside from it being the directly quoted creed of the Old Testament- still very much believed in by very many Christians- and who thought of it first is in dispute. 'Lex Talionis' is simply Latin for 'law as retaliation' and applies to any system that uses the idea, not specific to Hammurabi.
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I think you'd be hard pressed to find any religion that at some time hasn't been associated with heinous crimes, all in the name of their deity's word.
Buddhism? For all I know no war was ever started in the name of Buddha...
Correct me if I'm wrong.
(But then - Buddhism I think is more a philosophy than a religion. Buddha is a guide and teacher - not a God).
__________________ "Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities."
-Voltaire
"That includes ruining Halloween because someone swallowed a Bible."
"I just thought you were a guy."
"... Most guys do."
Buddhism is more of a philosophy than a religion. Buddha never claimed to be a god nor that hes sent by god or anything similar, like you said he was a teacher.
And no, you're right, yet again, no war was ever fought in the name of Buddha or Buddhism.
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في هذا العالم ثلاثة أشخاص أفسدوا البشرية : راعي غنم , طبيب و راكب الجمال , و راكب الجمال هو أسوأ نشال و أسوأ مشعوذ بين الثلاثة
We don't have the right to talk about Islam because we don't KNOW about it!You can't be christian and KNOW Islam, for instance jsut as you can't be a Muslim and KNOW Christianity.
All the major religions with the possible exception of Buddhism have gone through intolerant phases at different points. Islam as the youngest is going through one right now.
PunkyHermy> I can have an opinion on something – even if I’m not a part of it. I can have an opinion on Iraq, and not be an Iraqi, on China and not be Chinese, on Germany and not be German.
I can have an opinion on music without being able to play an instrument, too.
And I can also have an opinion on the various world-religions, based on what they preach and what the leaders of said religions chose to do in the name of their deity.
I just think we all have to be careful not to identify some crazy fanatics – doing horrible deeds in the name of some religion – with all that religion stands for. I’m somehow reminded of how Stalinism and the Soviet Union was the “epitome” of evil before the Berlin Wall fell – Now it's appearantly Islam.
__________________ "Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities."
-Voltaire
"That includes ruining Halloween because someone swallowed a Bible."
"I just thought you were a guy."
"... Most guys do."
(correct me if I'm wrong, the subject was a long time ago since I last got it)
The religion is 622 years younger than the christian one, it started when Mohammed had to flee... Mekka, I believe? or was that Medina?
so... if you compare it to us, using the christian counting, they live in 1382... Did WE (as christian countries) got holden back by the church?
HELL YES we did.
I suggest you read De Ecclesiastica Potestate by Giles of Rome and Defensor Pacis by Marsilius of Padmos. Two books going exactly about that...
except for the little dispute thats been going on in Nepal for about 50 years now
if that was the way they all would be ignorant
an enemy is always needed, like we Norwegians never forgott the Danish rulings even though the Swedes are our arch rivals...................funny cause we never ever lost to the Swedes so we should target you flatlanders
OK so someone can honestly tell me on these boards that there are as MANY christians hijacking plans cutting off peoples heads and suicide bombing as there are muslims doing it?
I hate it when people say "Oh you judge all muslims as raving terrorists just because some do bad things" Look at all the 9/11 hijackers..were any of them white? Were any of them christians? I highy doubt it.
no, but I do know of this things we call Crusades were thousands of innocent people died... I believe if memory serves that christians participated in those
that's because you fail to understand that Islam is 622 christian years younger
if you compare those two religions, you have to keep in mind that one is younger and when you place them in the same timeframe, christians have proved themselves to be very brutal already
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Aug 7th, 2004 01:25 PM
no offense to any1
right as always.
Spot on The Omega! 
even though the Swedes are our arch rivals...................funny cause we never ever lost to the Swedes so we should target you flatlanders 
