Green Lantern's ring can not be removed from his hand unless he desires it. Far more competent opponents than Scarlet Witch have tried and failed. And who's to say that Green Lantern won't create an army of winged monkeys to assault the Avengers?
"Teleporting them" would not be winning. No altering the evironment. I highly doubt Dr. Fate could beat Dr. Strange. Dr. Strange is the most powerful magician in his dimension. Can Fate say the same?
The Oa Guardians put an "enchantment" ,for a lack of a better word, on Kyle's ring to prevent anyone from taking the ring and using it for evil causes. After the whole Hal Jordan scenario, they bulked up Kyle's ring like there was no tomorrow. They made the ring have no weakness to the color yellow and the made it so that the ring can only be used by Kyle or by someone of his genetic line. (i.e his great-grandson during a time-travel adventure) Kyle's ring can be removed only and if only he relinquishes it with free will.
Wanda is unpredictable to say the least. Her powers affect probability. Wanda's hex bolts vs. the Oa Guardian's enchantment. It's no contest. The Oa Guardians are arguably the most powerful beings in the DC universe.
As I said before, who's to say that Green Lantern doesn't create a giant plasma cannon to nuclearize the Avengers. Who's to say Scarlet Witch isn't taken out by Green Lantern or the Flash who zips around the Avengers knocking out all those with human endurance?
Flash > Captain America US Agent Hawkeye Black Panther Black Widow Scarlet Witch
Quicksilver
Superman > Captain America US Agent Iron Man War Machine Hawkeye
Black Panther Black Widow Spiderman Spiderwoman Hulk She-Hulk Submariner
Human Torch Mr. Fantastic Thing Wasp Scarlet Witch Quicksilver
Green Lantern > Captain America US Agent Iron Man War Machine Hawkeye
Black Panther Black Widow Spiderman Spiderwoman Hulk She-Hulk Submariner
Human Torch Mr. Fantastic Thing Wasp Scarlet Witch Quicksilver Invisible Woman Binary
Martian Manhunter > all of them. Telepathic attack (i.e. fall asleep, mental control, blood-clot to the brain etc.
Why go "Cosmic Beings" and gods always come into play in our arguments, Draco. I would still like to see an issue number, but the acts of these beings have no affect in this thread. It wouldn't be Scarlet Witch versus the guardians of Oa. It would be Scarlet Witch versus Green Lantern. That would be like Lilandra assisting Xavier in the Telepathic battle thread, or the gods assisting Wonder Woman. It isn't magic vs. magic. It's magic vs. probability. Probability affects everyone. What's the probability of Green Lantern accidently taking off the ring? Slim to none. Wanda could drastically increase this chance. A plasma cannon? yeah, let's be a little more logical. If he could do that, Doomsday couldn't have beaten him.
Flash would be taken out of the fight by one of Sue's force fields. US Agent and Captain America both have far greater than Human endurance by the way.
Serious overestimation of Superman. Thor teleports behind him and knocks him out with Mjolnir.
I won't even respond to the Green Lantern statement.
You haven't proven to me the whole MM vs fire argument.
First off the Green Lantern Corps killed Doomsday with a powerful green plasma attack. Then he came back to life completely immune to the attacks of the Green Lanterns. That's his power. And that's why he was so difficult to defeat.
Secondly, I didn't say that the Oa Guardians were assisting Kyle. I said that the enchantment made it thus so that Kyle ring could never be removed or nor could it fall off unless Kyle wanted it so. Dr. Fate and and various other magicians and scientists have tried and failed to remove it. Scarlet Witch control over probablity is limited. She has little to no idea what would happen as result of her hex. She can only will the hex into the right direction to create the desired result (Source: The Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe : The Avengers )
If it was Green Lantern vs. Scarlet Witch, Kyle could do a number of things to take her out. There have numerous occasions where Wanda has been taken out with a piece of debris or an occasional fist. A giant green dinosaur stomping on the lusty gypsy would be a likely scenario. Wanda requires time to focus her hex. That's why she's always in the back.
Like I said before, the Flash zips around the Avengers at near-lightspeed and takes out anyone with human endurance. Including the Scarlet Witch.
Flash would NOT be taken out by Sue's force field. He can move at near-lightspeed if he desires. Sue would be taken out before the thought of "ouch" even makes it to her brain. US Agent and Captain America both possess "peak human" endurance. A couple thousand hits would fix that problem. Who said he only has to hit them once.
I never said that Superman would take out Thor. I know and you know that Thor would take Superman out. If you actually read the names you'll see that Thor's name is not there.
Martian Manhunter no longer fears or is vulnerable to fire since the Burning storyline in the JLA. Why would I lie to you?
Dr. Fate > Every Avenger than Thor. Thor vs. the Entire JLA. The JLA wins.
It's fact. Superman would be able to defeat everyone of them. As would the Flash and Green Lantern. Superman vs. She-Hulk. Superman wins. The Flash vs. Captain America. The Flash wins.
As I said before, the Avengers are completely vulnerable to telepathic attacks.
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