bas is good but bruce's speed and his jeet kune do is a every efffective systematic deconstuction of an opponent bas's system relies on overwhelming power and toughness bruce in his prime would be hard to hit even hard to inflict damage on it is the power and toughness vs relativly less power but precise enough to put enemies down in quick sucession if the situation called for it bas can do what bruce does but a chance of overkill hence take more time and bas has to cock back to throw a punch taking more time hence more time to move bruce strikes move so fast they make up the lack of body with velocity
Bas Rutten is amazing. i love the guy's charisma and his toughness. to me he's is epitome of a "tough guy" cuz he has been around in all kinds of fighting scenarios (well, minus war of course).
that said, didn't Ken Shamrock beat the guy twice. and wasn't Shamrock said to be the most dangerous man? i don't follow UFC MMA and all that so sorry if i sound ignorant.
exactly. kungfu is too "form" oriented. they have all these ways of strking and guarding which look cool in an exhibition or in a movie but would suck in real life due to poor guarding systems, open movements and all the other stuff etc. not to mention that when you have someone trying to maul you or rape you, trying to look good is probably the last thing on your mind. small wonder i've never seen any kungfu fighter in MMA and UFCs.
~Sado
Last edited by Sado22 on Jun 19th, 2009 at 08:09 AM
Shamrock pretty much beat Rutten because at the time Ruttens ground game wasn't evolved enough to compete with Kens.
If those 2 would have fought just a few years down the road,or even today,Bas would win fairly easy.
true. not taking anything from the man but we can't use a movie star to talk about real toughness. sure he invented a unique, very practcal style, sure he was a true prodigy, true that he was legendary and his contribution to martial arts (and its overratedness) is immense. but he was a movie star and not a REAL fighter. not saying he'll get fubared in a fight against UFC boys etc tho.
people tlak about the one-inch punch all the time but it took him a while to pull that punch off and he'd be a dumbass to try it in real life.
Let's not forget that Bruce Lee 'in his prime' has lost fights. You're acting like he's some Godlike entity who just destroys anyone and can't be struck, let alone be knocked down or out, while Bas Rutten could very well beat a Bruce Lee who's 'in his prime'.