the best fighter of all time is bruce lee . Her trained 10hrs. a day 7 days a week 365 days a year. He never lost a fight and never had a true challange. No one was ever able to imitate or re-do what he did. thats what made hime the best fighter of all time.
Anderson Silva, Fedor, BJ Penn, Miguel Torres, Urijah Faber.
P.S. Bruce would have beat the shit outta Jet Li. Li mastered more styles? So what? Most Kung Fu styles are useless in a real scrap. Bruce knew this & evolved his own style. He was the 1st real MMArtist.
Most of these "real scraps" you speak of are fought by untrained fighters. If you and I were "scrapping", it'd be messy and likely go to the ground (I am assuming you are an untrained fighter, forgive me if I am incorrect).
Two seasoned masters (Lee and Li) are less likely to resort to it. I have seen real life fights between both, untrained fighters and trained martial artists. Not saying a fight between two martial arts masters WOULD NOT go to the ground, mind you, just that it is less likely.
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MMA guys are highly trained & go to the ground often. It really depends on the style of the person involved. I'd pick experts in judo, jujitsu, sambo & muay thai to beat experts in Kung Fu more often than not. Only Kung Fu style that seems to be worth anything in MMA is the stuff Cung Lee uses. I think it's called Sanshou or something like that. He's a very good striker. Frank Shamrock foolishly tried to fight him w/out going to the ground & got his arm broken for it. gjj vs kung fu Listen to the 95% part too.
I guess. I am just going by fights I have seen up close and personal.
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Most all around adept fighter is Emelianenko, Fedor. The way he adapts to his environment is phenomenal. He's defeated fighters from all across the globe with different styles of fighting. From olympic wrestlers, to world class kickboxers, and masters of BJJ.
other fighters that deserved to be mentioned:
Lyoto Machida: His Karate foundation is what makes him one of the best. He has impressive balance and movements that allow him to strike at the strangest angles. His background in Sumo and Muay Thai has also helped him develop his entire fight game.
Anderson Silva: He has incredible muay thai skills. Easily the best in MMA, but I wouldn't consider the best fighter of all time. He's up there though.
BJ Penn
Georges St. Pierre
Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira
Josh Barnettt
Randy Couture
and for future, i've been saying this for the past 3-4 years, look out for Gegard Mousasi.
He's going to be the next Anderson Silva.
good list. Hagler over Sugar Ray is debatable. But does it really matter, these guyz are all incredible boxers.
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If it is debateable, then I want to debate with you then Dr. Leg Kick. Are you saying that Sugar Ray Leonard(a.k.a- Splinda Ray Leonard)> Marvin Hagler? If so I want to debate against you then, or anybody who says other wise.
well i think bruce lee is the best striker and most praticial and frank mir submission grapple and randy coutore ground and pound and fedor for all round
By all means, I agree that Hagler > Sugar, but I said it's debatable. I've seen valid points for both sides. From what I remember, Hagler took control after rounds 5-6. Better pace, and landed better shots. It was a close fight. An immediate rematch would have been perfect.
That's great, but Bruce Lee has no footage of striking in combat. And I'm not talking about his acting career. The guy was fast, that's for sure, but I'd say best strikers are found in the Muai Thai and Boxing realm.
Buakaw Por. Pramuk always comes to mind when I think of a striker. The guy can kick down trees with his leg kicks. And that is no joke.
Frank Mir is a great submission artist, but there are much better out there. Guyz like Damien Maia, Jacare, and Fedor come to mind. Their transitions from one position to another is incredible.
As for ground and pound, Mark Coleman was the Godfather of the ground and pound, but nowadays, it's Fedor, Couture, and I'm going to say Cain Velasquez. I know it's too soon to say, but the guy is impressive. Once he starts working on his boxing and head movement, he wont get tagged when going for takedowns. I'm expecting a bright future.
By 'real life fighting', I assume fights in everyday situations. In that case, I would say Bas Rutten. No question.
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