Narcissist much.Deano posted the a "paper" on the hypothesis of a physicist who studies cold fusion, with no background in structural engineering, whom neither his faculty nor the faculty of engineering at his university agree with.
His paper which he claims has been peer-reviewed has only been "peer-reviewed" by the Marxist Journal, Research in Political Economy. He intends to published said peer-reviewed paper not in any respected civil engineering journal but rather a commercial book. In said paper he references Professor David Ray Griffin, the editor of said commercial book, as if he were an authority on physics or structural engineering. He is in fact a Professor of Philosophy, Religion and Theology. He has not submitted his article for peer-review in any civil engineering or even physics journal. His most well-known other "paper" is "Behold My Hands: Evidence for Christ's Visit in Ancient America" in which he claims Jesus visited Latin America after being resurrected.
A quick database search reveals Steven E. Jones has all of 5 published peer-reviewed journal articles total. At least all that I can find. These have been cited a total of 14 times.
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You continually say that I insult you and offer no counterpoints. I am sure that you don't see how hypocritical you are, so I will help you as you read the following post.
No, it's moot because the building did not defy physics. That was my counter. It is a simple statement. You criticize my argument, but you have offered nothing in return. (Saying that I am full of it is an insult and offers no counter point, that's 1)
(someone like me? Insult 2. and the second time you offered nothing to argue against) And not explaining your position out of embarrassment or fear does not allow me to state my position for or agaisnt it. If you are afraid to state what you think happened please do not engagte in a conversation with others criticising them for their beliefs. At least they have the nuts to put them forth.
Attempted insult number 3 and a total lack of anything to do with the subject or point that needs to be addressed.
Stating you made a point does not mean that you made one. Elaborate.
INsults and 5 are they? I have debated multiple points. You have avoided multiple points. (Are you embarrassed yet? You should be.)
Yes, that you continue to insult without debating anything I have said. And that you coninually do what you accuse me of.
You won't even state what you think happened!!! I have provided evidence, and ENCOURAGED you to both research the evidence, the writers and their sources. Please do so and criticise that at will.
Yes in fact I can, I have pointed out your flaws in logic and information many times. The one liners and insults are free. As for noticing the typos, their not typos, they're mistakes that make you posts completely muttled and unclear. If you want to try and act smart, at least take the effort to try and look smart.
Yous stated[b[When uses an opinion as the basis of an argument.
And say's I lack common sense it's okay[/b]. Please elaborate where I used opinion based as fact. I cannot elaborate on a simple and ignorant comment. To ask so is equally stupid and ignorant.
No, I think it is because you are afraid to stand behind your beliefs. It is easier for you to riducule what others say than put yourself out there. That's quite cowardly.
Do you understand the concept of cascade failure?
You cannot distort a persons argument in order to further your own and try and seem right. Ush, Gav and I have said that the central core gave out due to a multitude of causes. The links I posted stated the same. You have chosen to ignore that and read that all we believe is that fire caused the collapse. That is willful ignorance. How do you expect me to argue or debate with you when you ignore points and evidence and then put words in mine and others mouths?
So continue your little rants and offer nothing to this conversation, perhaps it makes you happy, but you do look silly.
Another example of both Deano posting a source without confirming ihow reputable it is, and anoth example of you misunderstanding and jumping to conclusions. This is tiring.
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You haven't made any points to counter , all you been blabbering about is ush's argument.
I insulted you because you insult me, I explained my argument. you just made a statement with no elaboration at all.
"Someone like you" is an insult, and no their is no point in debating you all you do is make one statment with out elaborating it's a waste of my time.
Yes it has to be addressed maybe if you weren't so busy drooling over him you would form a better argument.
I did elaborate, man your a hypocrite you haven't explained anythingand you just keep posting one liners.
Like the point about the bombs I didn't make or how you keep on repeating ush argument and ignore my rebuttals to them.
And I have done research, have you read fema report it refutes ush's argument. in their report they ADMITT THAT A PLANE AND FIRE ALONE COULD NOT BRING THE PLANE DOWN
Oh, so when you say "It does not defy the laws of physics" all the time, and never to the time to elaborate your using logic?
For one when you accused me of claiming bombs were involved, then you ignore the point I made about the building falling too fast.
yeah, like when I debate my belief in ID several times or how I post conspiracy's, obviously your blind.
And can you explain why the 47 steel columns offered no resistance?
Ush simply stated, "fire weakened the steel" when FEMA clearly stated that the fire and the plane were nt enough. and even if they gave outthat does not explain the lack of resistance when the towers fell or how the steel melted.
Jumping to conclusion, like when you accused me of claiming bombs were involved, man your a hypocrite.
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My mistake, FEMA admitted that they did not know the reason for building sevens collapse. the fire protection engineering community were the ones who said that a plane and fire were not enough.
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