This is when I 1st smelled fanboy on you. It gets worse though Changed it to a fist fight because some can use his kryptonite and his other weaknesses against him. Might as well have said "I'm a fanboy. I really don't want Supes to lose, so I make up conditions that should help Supes win." Pretty bad......but it still gets worse. The fanboyism is starting to make me want to vomit here. Now it's not just a fight, it's a fist fight. And now it's not just Supes. It's Supes Prime. Should've just said "I'm a fanboy and I think that if I make the fight as simple for Supes as possible and upgrade Supes so much I use one that doesn't currently exist that Supes will win. I hate the idea of Supes losing so much that I'll put any stupid rules I can think of to help Supes out. I'm quite pathetic." And you still hold on to the contradiction falsehood because you don't remember or comprehend what you read. Shame.
You've said that Supes couldn't be defeated in a fight by any other hero. A couple of people besides myself do not agree.
People may not agree w/me on Spidey being the Ultimate, but that's cool. I respect their right to opinion. You on the other hand use non-hilarius insults and misinterpretations because you can't accept that someone might not agree w/you(and because you don't know what a contradiction is )
Here's a shocker! Superman is the ultimate superhero... Doh! didn't see that coming, just put into google, look for a poll which has been going on for a while now and superman has cleaned house on the poll, which has had some silly number put a vote in.
"This statement may scream of fanboyism to you skeptics, but I'll have to honestly say, that as I write this post, no superhero in any comic can defeat Superman in a fight. In and out of the DC realm.
To me, the Ultimate Superhero is the mightiest being. And that's Superman. "
Not may. It does.
Captain Marvel has "mightiest" on its pun name. That makes him mightier than Superman who doesnt, wouldnt you agree.
"And for those who believe that Superman, at this point, can be defeated in a fight by any superhero in comic book existence, may you list the names of superheros that can literally beat Superman in a hand to hand fight, please? Thank you."
Hand to Hand?
Wonder Woman (who he already lost to, twice)
Orion
Thor
Heracles
Hulk
Forgotten One.
To name a few.
"Yea, that's right a hand to hand fight. Know why I wrote that? Because I know you gonna come out with the "Kryptonite" argument. Which is understandable, but lets make the fight happen it without the green rock involved"
Right.
But none of the above need any green K to win against Supes h2h.
"but lets make the fight happen it without the green rock involved. And since Superman Prime is Superman at his most powerful, can anyone please name an opponent who will defeat Prime in an up & up fight? I wanna see this."
What do you know of Prime exactly. Ever saw him doing anything other than defeating an opponent Kyle would have?
You also have:
Rune Thor/Odinpower Thor
Odin/Zeus
Lucifer/Michael
The Presence
Spectre
To name a few.
Again. This is pathetic.
"And Brainchild, I said you were trying to equate Spiderman's style of fighting with the Matrix style of fighting. You even said it yourself, quote (paraphrasing): "The Matrix fights are like Spideystyle fighting" but then a few posts later you wrote that in no way, do you think and never wrote/said that the Matrix and Spiderman are similar in any way. You can't get more blatantly contradicting than that, man".
What does Spiderman style of fighting has to do with Superman?
Brainchild is actually right. That post has more lunacy than Bush invading Iraq.
Last edited by olympian on Dec 13th, 2005 at 12:15 AM
Yea, im thru with you. This shit is pointless now. You know a thread's getting sloppy when it becomes cyclical.
It's been more than a month of this shit, I'm good, lol We just have different views thats all. I believe Superman is the Ultimate Superhero and you believe Spiderman is. Too bad.
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Captain Marvel's pun is "Earth's Mightiest Mortal", you strumpet. How does that make him mightier than Superman, who is immortal. so NO, I don't agree.
I honestly believe you mentioned those names sarcastically. Just to ignite something I think, cause you were joking,... right?
..well, right??
What does Spideystyle have to do with Superman? If you've been reading the past 10 or 11 posts, n00b, you'd know. Go find out the answers for your own pathetic next time, invalid.
Brainchild is right? You seem as if you formed a stern opinion just because some one else said so. Or maybe your questionably interested in him, who knows, but I digress,
__________________ "The darkside, Sidious, is an illness no true Sith wishes to be cured of, my young apprentice .."
"Captain Marvel's pun is "Earth's Mightiest Mortal", you strumpet. How does that make him mightier than Superman, who is immortal. so NO, I don't agree."
Hes immortal with what base? He ages in continuity, last i checked someone who is immortal doesnt age.
Shows how much you know.
And Superman its still not called "mightiest" while Marvel is...oh boy.
"I honestly believe you mentioned those names sarcastically. Just to ignite something I think, cause you were joking,... right?"
No.
I mentioned them because they can win against a version of said character whos done jack of impressive note.
And the h2h ones definatly can win against regular Supes.
"What does Spideystyle have to do with Superman? If you've been reading the past 10 or 11 posts, n00b, you'd know. Go find out the answers for your own pathetic next time, invalid"
I dont need to read them because simply Superman does not have anything to do with his fighting style and vice versa.
The fact you even discuss something that has no comparation for posts and posts really shows who is the noob.
har har.
"Brainchild is right? You seem as if you formed a stern opinion just because some one else said so. Or maybe your questionably interested in him, who knows, but I digress,"
No. I agree hes right about YOU because i can see you are wrong.
Same way you cant prove Superman beats every hero when he has lost before and will continue to do so.
Last edited by olympian on Dec 13th, 2005 at 07:24 PM
Without reading everything that came before, I'd say that Superman, properly written, can be the ultimate hero. One definition of hero says, "a man distinguished by exceptional courage and nobility and strength" which is certainly possible for Superman to be written in that way.
My own definition of hero includes the idea that it's a person people aspire to be... Superman has the combination of history, personality, popularity, powers, and pedigree like no other comic hero enabling him to legitimately claim the title of Ultimate Hero, in my opinion.
Superman's the only character I know with no interest but for the safety of others, and thats it. Period. There are no hidden agendas, no repressed bad memories, no depression. Just pure unadulterated selflessness to the max. And he purely does it just it because it's just and fair and he willingly takes no credit for it. Superman's genuine passion is to help those in need to the best of his heavenly abilities with-out asking or expecting so much as a Thank you. He also defines the the modest Superhero. These are just some of the reasons why Superman is the Ultimate Superhero to me. It's like to him, you're first, then it's him.
__________________ "The darkside, Sidious, is an illness no true Sith wishes to be cured of, my young apprentice .."
Olympian, it is subjective. However, if you were to ask everyone who the epitomy of the Ultimate Superhero is, I'm willing to bet 9 out of 10 people say Superman.
Worse, even those not familiar with comics, wold probably say Superman, which probably proves how popular he is, and who people think of first if you were to ask these same people this question.
Im willing to bet that 9 out of 10 on non comic readers its maybe scretching it.
My point however isent saying if Supes its an icon or not.
Obviously and of course he is. Id be dumb if i said he isent. I like the character, or better said and honest some versions of it.
The point is the blatant bias that claims he beats everyone. That would ignoring there are characters who can match, win and others who isent even a contest.