Yes, he lost. Yoda didn't attack back because he didn't want to. Are you suggesting that he didn't use Force attacks because he was unable to? No, Yoda tossed all the objects Dooku threw at him aside with ease and caught his lightning without difficulty.
Yeah. In ESB Luke probably left cause he needed to take a shit, too. Cause he definately wasn't losing.
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From what I saw, neither one of them had any edge over another. it was a complete stalemate. I think the outcome of this fight would depend on who tires out the quickest.
Glad that what you think is only your opinion. However, both the movie [from what I saw], the script from what I've read, and the obvious consensus all trumps your opinion.
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Their was not a victor nor was there a loser. This means it was a stalemate. I dont know why Yoda didnt attack in the force battle. Yes he did block the Counts force assaults with relative ease but there is no reason to say that Dooku couldnt block Yodas. And we cant say that because Dooku offered the lightsaber battle that he was losing the force battle. That is a massive assumption.
The lightsaber battle was also stalemated. We clearly see neither being able to hit the other. You keep saying Yoda didnt budge an inch. Whoopdi doo. He managed to block the Counts attacks. Nothing particularly special. We saw Dooku blocking Yodas attacks. Does that mean he was doing better. No. It doesnt. So that argument goes right out the door.
I will say that Yoda did what he came to do. Protected Kenobi and Anakin. But he didnt beat Dooku. Dooku left. Why we dont know. We just cant say that he left because he was losing, because it would only be an assumption.
If the battle had kept going Dooku would have won. They were both tiring and I hope we can agree that yoda would tire first because of their respective styles.
How is that biased. Whats biased is you saying that Yoda won the force battle when we saw him do NOTHING in the force battle and that Yoda won the lightsaber duel when nobody managed to defeat the other. That is biased.
That he forced Dooku to pull otu his saber while doing 'nothing' is proof of his superiority....once more, Dooku ran and realized he couldn't win.
Quote from the adaptation: "Dooku realizes he is not the strongest after all."
Because Dooku pulled out his saber doesnt mean he lost the force battle!!!!!! It might mean that he thinks he can take Yoda out faster with a lightsaber than with the force because he was pressed for time. The place was swarming with jedi and he had the plans for the death star in his freakin pocket. Sounds like a good enough reason to get the hell out of there!
I dont understand how you can all think that Yoda is better in the force when he did nothing!!! He stopped the roof falling on him. So what. It was the Count that ripped the roof down in the first place. They stalemated because neither bet the other. There is absolutely no evidence what so ever that Yoda won. In fact I would say Dooku did because he actually did something. But I wont because it was clearly stalemated.
The lightsaber battle had to have stalemated because neither had won. They couldnt land a blow on their opponent. Or you could look at it like this. Yoda came to protect Kenobi/Anakin and succeeded. Meaning he won. Dooku initially went to the hangar to get into his ship and leave (as seen before Kenobi/Anakin arrived) and eventually managed to do that. Which means he also won. Whatever way you look at it they stalemated because neither defeated the other.
Point taken but that doesnt mean he won the battle. If he was really as good as everyone thinks he is why didnt he finish Dooku off then and there with the force? He didnt which means it resulted in a stalemate. I dont doubt that Yoda might have been able to win but in that particular battle Yoda did nothing which means it stalemated.
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Why didn't he finish off Dooku? Lets see, he didn't come in there with the intention to kill anybody, Dooku threw that big boulder on top of Anakin and Obiwan so Yoda had to stop it, and you've just proven the point that Yoda is superior to Dooku by saying "Yoda did nothing and they stalemated". Obviously if Yoda was on his game, Dooku would have been owned.
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No, the point I am trying to make is how do you think Yoda won the force battle when he did nothing. It was stalemated because neither managed to beat the opponent. If Yoda had participated he MIGHT have won the force battle but he didnt so it ended up being a stalemate.
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