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Respect Ororo: Storm Queen of the Wakandans
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Creshosk
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Originally posted by Rutog98
Cool. I just want to get the issues where she appears though. I wish Marvel would let us know!!!
I know what you mean. I've got another person that I'm tracking down to make sure I get all of her appearences.. so far I know I don't.

But I'll keep an eye out in the ones I get like the New Warriors series to see if she shows up again and I'll report back if she does.


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Here's an extensive list for a lot of the appearances she appears in, if anyone wants to see it (it might not be all, but it's still a lot):
http://comicbookdb.com/character_chron.php?ID=173


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Originally posted by KK the Great
Wow.

The only stretching I'm seeing here doesn't happen in the comic.


Narrator:

"Officially speaking, fiftey miles high is where space begins.
The Boundery isn't that precise, of course; on a molecular level Earth's atmosphere goes on for quite a ways.

This is considered to be as high as Human beings can fly in anything less than a rocket.


The narration in conjuction with Character dialog in the panels suggest that she used "wind" to support herself, Archangel, and the "Plasti-jet" and cary them 50 miles above the planet were there is no wind to manipulate.

By the time she tires, Forge says that she brought them a fair bit further than they thought possible.

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Originally posted by BlueDMighty
Good lookin out fellas big grin

I was lookin for a list like that.

More bad assery

Storm vs Gangsta Skrulls

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Now THAT looks like the storm I know. eek!


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Storm summons the power of the ENTIRE CORE!! UXM-165

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Originally posted by BlueDMighty
Narrator:

"Officially speaking, fiftey miles high is where space begins.
The Boundery isn't that precise, of course; on a molecular level Earth's atmosphere goes on for quite a ways.

This is considered to be as high as Human beings can fly in anything less than a rocket.

The narration in conjuction with Character dialog in the panels suggest that she used "wind" to support herself, Archangel, and the "Plasti-jet" and cary them 50 miles above the planet were there is no wind to manipulate.

By the time she tires, Forge says that she brought them a fair bit further than they thought possible.


Like I said.

Practically Olympic-level stretching.


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Like I said.

Practically Olympic-level stretching.


My mistake, I assumed you weren't a Troll embarrasment

Exododus, Creshosk; do you guys have a problem with the feat's description?

Anybody else?

How would you all word it?

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My mistake, I assumed you weren't a Troll embarrasment


No, you thought I was an idiot, apparently, and figured I would be impressed by that garbled abortion of logic you just tried to pass off.

Nothing about that scene could ever be rationally described as "Storm stretches the planet's atmosphere."


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No, you thought I was an idiot, apparently, and figured I would be impressed by that garbled abortion of logic you just tried to pass off.

Nothing about that scene could ever be rationally described as "Storm stretches the planet's atmosphere."


O.K. I'll bite.

How would you describe it???

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Originally posted by BlueDMighty
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My mistake, I assumed you weren't a Troll embarrasment

Exododus, Creshosk; do you guys have a problem with the feat's description?

Anybody else?

How would you all word it?
"Stretching the atmosphere" is a fancy way of putting it. As the boundry of space that they're at is about 100km up at the Karman line (about 62 miles rather than 50 but that's okay the number isn't important just the conceptualization of location for the story). It does mention that the atmosphere continues on a way after that. The magnetosphere is considered to be part of the atmosphere and it ends at the exosphere at about 10,000km, iirc.

She could be preceived as stretching a parts of the atmosphere, depending on how you look at it. If she's pulling wind up from down below it could be from the stratosphere where most air bouyant objects stop, The mesosphere above that or a small part of the thermosphere that sits above that where the karman line is.

Any way you look at it its an impressive feat to push wind up high enough to support Archangel, herself and the plastiglider. "Stretching the atmosphere might be hyperbolic, or it might be a symantic argument depending on what part of the atmosphere you're talking about specifically.

But the short answer is: I have no problem with that description you gave it.


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Thank you sir.

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"Stretching the atmosphere" is a fancy way of putting it. As the boundry of space that they're at is about 100km up at the Karman line (about 62 miles rather than 50 but that's okay the number isn't important just the conceptualization of location for the story). It does mention that the atmosphere continues on a way after that. The magnetosphere is considered to be part of the atmosphere and it ends at the exosphere at about 10,000km, iirc.

She could be preceived as stretching a parts of the atmosphere, depending on how you look at it. If she's pulling wind up from down below it could be from the stratosphere where most air bouyant objects stop, The mesosphere above that or a small part of the thermosphere that sits above that where the karman line is.

Any way you look at it its an impressive feat to push wind up high enough to support Archangel, herself and the plastiglider. "Stretching the atmosphere might be hyperbolic, or it might be a symantic argument depending on what part of the atmosphere you're talking about specifically.

But the short answer is: I have no problem with that description you gave it.


Fair enough.

I was talking about the Atmosphere in terms of wind and air.

If I were able I would amend the feat description based on your very specific explination.

Storm Supports herself, Archangel, and the plasti-jet with wind at the "Karman line"

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O.K. I'll bite.

How would you describe it???


Correctly and without injecting massive bias, for starters.

She flew to the absolute limits of the atmosphere.


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Storm controls the weather through Invisible Woman's force-field:

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Storm controls the weather through Invisible Woman's force-field:

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You not stating this properly she is controlling the weather outside the shield she has not shown the ability to do that inside the shield where sue is.but anyone who reads it can tell that so not big deal....

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double post my bad.

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Does everyone see the logic in what I stated above with the Storm/Sue's force-field thing? She was inside Sue's force-field and controlled the weather on the other side of it. She would be able to do the reverse since they are the same thing. The force-field's interior is composed of the same energies as its exterior. Hence, Sue is able to not only block out explosions, punches, and energy blasts by putting a force-field around herself, she is also able to contain these things by putting a force-field around what she wants to contain. This is a fact, not speculation.


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Does everyone see the logic in what I stated above with the Storm/Sue's force-field thing?


See it.

Rejected.


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LOL. Like I care. Other people can read it and come to their own conclusions. Many of them are going to see it and know its right though they may not voice it. :P


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Your argument is sound. It is affirming the antecedent.


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The argument is unsound its affirming the consequent.

Just because it worked one way does not mean it will work the other way.

Saying that it is affirming the antecedent is to commit the wishful thinking fallacy.


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