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Scythe
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Holy crap, that's G1!


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Cool. To hear Weird Al in a cartoon. His voice is very very suited to the medium.

I think G1 Wreck-gar was more stoic and he constantly "talked in TV"
again, strong G1 route, but this is just kiddified that extra bit, I guess which fits the show and works well within it.. still don't like the animation style, but I appeciate the conceptual thought gone into this here.

Coulda done without the "More than meets the eye with you" level of corny dialogue refering to the 86 movie.

EG That whole "Hi Im Wreck Gar! And I dare to be stupid" thing...

Well thank you for the classifieds ad, Mr.Wreck Gar!! Do you also also like busty blondes, smoking and find children and pets irritating? Jeez. stick out tongue

You all know I love the G1 stuff, but that execution was so hammy.
But feck it, this one for Pre-schoolers, so one can't expect Shakespear
I suppose.

Not bad design though. Not too bad at all.
Clearly resembles him smile


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You all know I love the G1 stuff, but that execution was so hammy.
But feck it, this one for Pre-schoolers, so one can't expect Shakespear
I suppose.




It's aimed at the same audience as almost every Transformers show 5-10 year olds. G1 was just as immature. Its just been animated in the same style most modern action cartoons are been done in.

If you want more mature robot shows go watch Gundam or Macross you'll never get it from Transformers again.

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I'm sure there'll be a mature Transformers series, give it time


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The dreamwave comics were a step in the right direction.
They shoulda let those guys been involved.


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Last nights episode was pretty poor, then again it seemed more-over intended to be an 'introduction' to Blurr.


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Originally posted by Galvaclaw
It's aimed at the same audience as almost every Transformers show 5-10 year olds. G1 was just as immature. Its just been animated in the same style most modern action cartoons are been done in.

If you want more mature robot shows go watch Gundam or Macross you'll never get it from Transformers again.


Well why not stick on Robocop in that case? Now thats a mature robot movie... stick out tongue

I do know that when I was ten to like thirteen and the originals were about, they never featured Powder-puff girl stuff and still took a more dark angle somehow. And the comics were the mark of the more mature side of what made Transformers great anyhow.


On your last point, sadly, I agree it looks that way.
The DW comics are the last best hope.


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i thought dreamwave was dead? in fact i seem to remember them being revived and then dying AGAIN

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There's a spoiler up on youtube that depicts new characters.

[SPOILER - highlight to read]: seekers, including a female seeker, omega supreme, constructicons.


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i thought dreamwave was dead? in fact i seem to remember them being revived and then dying AGAIN


Thank god they did. 90's comic book style exxxtreme writing and stories pepered with over powered Mary Su's are not what Transformers needs.

Pat lee's appalling business paractices gaurateed both failures. Spending company funds on yourself anf your girlfriend while not paying anyone isn't the best idea.

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I do know that when I was ten to like thirteen and the originals were about, they never featured Powder-puff girl stuff and still took a more dark angle somehow. And the comics were the mark of the more mature side of what made Transformers great anyhow.


Its because you were younger back then and have your vision clouded by nostalgia now. G1 was full of rediculous stories and one off villains that made little sense.

Besides the comics were subpar up until Furman took over. I wouldn't call Prime commiting suicide over a videogame deep. What about villains like the robot master?

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i thought dreamwave was dead? in fact i seem to remember them being revived and then dying AGAIN


Correct. As noted above by Galvaclaw, business was the reason it folded.

Not because it was shit.


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Thank god they did. 90's comic book style exxxtreme writing and stories pepered with over powered Mary Su's are not what Transformers needs.

Pat lee's appalling business paractices gaurateed both failures. Spending company funds on yourself anf your girlfriend while not paying anyone isn't the best idea.



Its because you were younger back then and have your vision clouded by nostalgia now. G1 was full of rediculous stories and one off villains that made little sense.

Besides the comics were subpar up until Furman took over. I wouldn't call Prime commiting suicide over a videogame deep. What about villains like the robot master?


Its not just nostalgia. I re-read the scans from time to time.

Furman was in it from UK marvel issue 20-something.
His stuff was always cool.
Robot master and the government storyline was still way cooler and more mature than a flying powder puff girl.

You're right about the depth of the US scripts which served to introduce product every issue first then worried about content later. Yeah the prob was Bob Budiansky going into a decline around the Fifteenth US issue or so. "The Car wash of doom" would be another great example of the lameness that sometime infect the US comic's writing while the US had that, we had Target: 2006. THATS where the deep/good stuff is at.

That Prime death no.2/Pretenders story licked cybertronian donkey sacks allllllll day, But the underbase saga etc was good..


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Its not just nostalgia. I re-read the scans from time to time.

Furman was in it from UK marvel issue 20-something.
His stuff was always cool.
Robot master and the government storyline was still way cooler and more mature than a flying powder puff girl.

You're right about the depth of the US scripts which served to introduce product every issue first then worried about content later. Yeah the prob was Bob Budiansky going into a decline around the Fifteenth US issue or so. "The Car wash of doom" would be another great example of the lameness that sometime infect the US comic's writing while the US had that, we had Target: 2006. THATS where the deep/good stuff is at.

That Prime death no.2/Pretenders story licked cybertronian donkey sacks allllllll day, But the underbase saga etc was good..


A lot of people enjoyed 'The Car Wash of Doom' , mostly because it was so bad it was good.


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shifty Thats one hell of a guilty or ironic pleasure... stick out tongue

Its like the "Trouble with tribbles" but for the TF comics.


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I don't know if anyone here has read the Transformers comics put out by IDW, who received the license after dreamwave's demise...but i recently got a hold of all of them and the stories are really entertaining.

There's a "spotlight" series, where each issue features characters that aren't primary characters in the main story, though it still ties all together and is overall very well done.

re: transformers animated...i've been traumatized by attempts to watch the transformers cartoons from japan (armada, RID) and I really dislike these anime-style programs....that's not TF at all. Granted I'd like to take a look but I just can't get over the designs of the TFs on animated....IMO they're just hideous. How is the show itself?


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I don't know if anyone here has read the Transformers comics put out by IDW, who received the license after dreamwave's demise...but i recently got a hold of all of them and the stories are really entertaining.


I'm very fond of the IDW comics. Much better than dreamwave.

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How is the show itself?


It's generally well written. Megatron is the best we've had for years. It suffers from low frame rate in some of the episodes. Also some of the filler episodes plot are a bit off. In general though its a good show with endless nods back to G1 and I mean loads. They've even had spike appear played by his G1 voice actor.

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Indeed, the inclusion of [SPOILER - highlight to read]: the sweeps and the Ark transforming can only make it better.


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Holy crap, this just got way better. They included the twins, [SPOILER - highlight to read]: Jetstormand Jetfire, and the sweeps, with a female Screamer, Cyclonus, Hot Rod, Ultra Magnus, Waspinator, Shockwave, precepter, wheeljack, Elita-One, Blurr, Arcee and Blackout, Just to name a few.

It f*ckin' sucked that [SPOILER - highlight to read]: Blurr was "killed" by Shockawave, wtf was that? He was a cool character, and it also looks like Shockwave might've killed Ultra Magnus as well.

Good stuff.


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