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Blair Wind
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Originally posted by Creshosk
Bethany Cabe [x], Betty Banner [x], Catwoman [x], Black Widow [x], Elektra [x], Gwen Stacy [x], Gwenny Lou Sabuki [x], Harley Quinn [x], Jubilee [x], Lady Shiva [x], Lana Lang [x], Lois Lane [x], Mary Jane Watson [x], Talia al Ghul [x], Tana Moon [x], Sara Grey [x], Valerie Cooper [x] -17

Empath [x] -2
Mind Control -5
Prep- 1


Each [x] is a link to a biography for the character that precedes it.




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Originally posted by Creshosk
Bethany Cabe [x], Betty Banner [x], Catwoman [x], Black Widow [x], Elektra [x], Gwen Stacy [x], Gwenny Lou Sabuki [x], Harley Quinn [x], Jubilee [x], Lady Shiva [x], Lana Lang [x], Lois Lane [x], Mary Jane Watson [x], Talia al Ghul [x], Tana Moon [x], Sara Grey [x], Valerie Cooper [x] -17

Empath [x] -2
Mind Control -5
Prep- 1


Each [x] is a link to a biography for the character that precedes it.


Can't wait to see how this will work.


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Originally posted by Creshosk
Bethany Cabe [x], Betty Banner [x], Catwoman [x], Black Widow [x], Elektra [x], Gwen Stacy [x], Gwenny Lou Sabuki [x], Harley Quinn [x], Jubilee [x], Lady Shiva [x], Lana Lang [x], Lois Lane [x], Mary Jane Watson [x], Talia al Ghul [x], Tana Moon [x], Sara Grey [x], Valerie Cooper [x] -17

Empath [x] -2
Mind Control -5
Prep- 1


Each [x] is a link to a biography for the character that precedes it.
oooo the can't hit a girl ploy, not bad. superman is very swayed by that.

by the way, those guys that got their picks denied should pick new stuff before time runs out.


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The Nightmare of Solomon

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24 minutes before you get kicked mr. b and cap spald


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The Iron Avenger

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24 minutes before you get kicked mr. b and cap spald



They were never gonna show anyways erm


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eek! evil face


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OK GUYS. Here is the final listing of all competitors choices. Please go over it to see that everything is correct. I will post your choices as you have written them, so if you feel it is unclear for others to understand, clean it up a bit and repost it.

1. TONY STARK

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Originally posted by Tony Stark
Dr. Doom (616) (4) Points
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_Doom
http://www.marvel.com/universe/Doctor_Doom_(Victor_von_Doom)
http://en.marveldatabase.com/Victor...%28Earth-616%29

Gladiator "Kallark" (616) (6) Points
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gladiator_%28Kallark%29
http://www.marvel.com/universe/Gladiator_%28Kallark%29
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mn3...feature=related

Amalgam lvl. 1 (4) points

(Dr. Doom)
Mind/Armor/Prep/Tech/Sorcery/Intelligence/Planning/Ruthlessness/Confidence...etc).

(Gladiator)
Body/Strength/Speed/Durability/Fighting skills/Psionic abilities
Super breath/Heat-vision/Warrior born...etc).

Prep time lvl. 1 (1) point
(15 Minute Battlefeild)

Prep time lvl. 3 (5) points
(36 Hrs mystical sanctum/Scientific lab)

Knowledge of opposition lvl. 3 (5) points
(Extensive knowledge of all opponents including strengths and weaknesses)

4+6+4+1+5+5= 25 points


2. Creshosk

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Bethany Cabe [x], Betty Banner [x], Catwoman [x], Black Widow [x], Elektra [x], Gwen Stacy [x], Gwenny Lou Sabuki [x], Harley Quinn [x], Jubilee [x], Lady Shiva [x], Lana Lang [x], Lois Lane [x], Mary Jane Watson [x], Talia al Ghul [x], Tana Moon [x], Sara Grey [x], Valerie Cooper [x] -17

Empath [x] -2
Mind Control -5
Prep- 1


Each [x] is a link to a biography for the character that precedes it.


3. id369
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Originally posted by id369
I am purchasing the followings.
2 – Prep Time, Lv. 2: One(1) hour spent in either a mystic sanctum or scientific lab
4 – Power Boosting: 4 points for each character boosted and if this is done in prep, it is added on to prep points
5 – Knowledge of the Opposition, Lv. 3: Extensive knowledge of all opponents on opposing team including strengths and weaknesses


What I have bought.

Amlagam Name: The Rapture
6 - Shaman X-Man (Mind)
4- Jan Grey (Body)
4 – Amalgam, Lv. 1: A combination of two characters



2007 X-Men - Messiah Complex (Mutant Files)
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_Grey
http://www.marvel.com/universe/Phoenix_(Jean_Grey)


Official Hand Book of the Marvel Universe (2004)
Book of the Dead.

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http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/8991/46lx9.jpg


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X-Man
http://www.marvel.com/universe/X-Man


4. Papa Smurph

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Originally posted by Papa Smurph
Sonia Sato - 2
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judomaster

Hector Hall - 6 (Body) (Mind)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_Fate

World War Hulk - 6 (Body)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_Hulk

Amalgam v2 - 6
Prep time v3 - 5


Name?

The Amalgam that just kicked your ass and raped your mother x2.


5. darthgoober

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Originally posted by darthgoober
The Silver Adaptoid(Amalgam Lv. 1= 4 pts)

Silver Surfer(Body)= 6 pts
http://www.marvel.com/universe/Silver_Surfer
Super Adaptoid(Mind)= 6 pts
http://www.marvel.com/universe/Super-Adaptoid

Power Copying= 8 pts
Prep Time Lv. 1(15 minutes on the battlefield)= 1 pt.

4+6+6+8+1= 25 pts.


6. Symmetric Chaos

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Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Karnak - 2
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karnak_%28comics%29
Flash - 6
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wally_West
Superman - 6
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superman
Amaglam v2 - 6
Batman - 1
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batman
Prep Time v2 - 2
(1 hour in a scientific laborotory or mystic sanctum)
Knowledge of the Opposition v2 - 2
(list of opponent's abilities but not the level)

Karnak (Mind)
(MA, Skills, Find Flaws etc)
Superman (Body)
(Strength, HV, arctic breath, durability, flight, T-Vo, dashing good looks, etc)
Flash
(Superspeed, Speedforce abilities . . . dun dun dun dun!)

Amalgam Name: Pete


2 + 6 + 6 + 6 + 1 + 2 + 2 = 25


7. Devil Lance

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Originally posted by Devil Lance
My team
Firestorm http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firestorm_%28comics%29
(Raymond/ Stein Combo) - 6 points

Level 1 Amalgam - 4 points
King Hawk
composed of
Hawkman http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawkman
(Carter Hall with claw of Horus) 4 points Mind - Carter's fighting skills, nth metal, claw of horrus, hawk man suit , other standard equipment, memories of his other lives

Aquaman http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aquaman
(Orin with water hand) 4 points Body- strength, durabilty, senses, speed, reflexes, water hand, telepathy, etc etc

prep level 1 - 1 point + power boosting during prep 4 points + level 2 knowledge of opponents 2 points

6+4+4++4+4+2+1=25


8. TricksterPriest

quote: (post)
Originally posted by TricksterPriest

And lvl. 3 prep for 5 points.

total points: Metron- 6 Waverider- 6 amalgam lvl 1 - 4 prep lvl 3 - 5 batman- 1

6+6+4+5+1=20.

knowledge of opponents lvl 2 for 2 points.

And for my last pick, I take Rip Hunter. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rip_Hunter for 1 point.

total 23 points.


9. psycho gundam

quote:
Regular Juggernaut- 5 points
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juggernaut_(comics)

Space Gem – 10 points
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infinity_Gems

Power Gem – 10 points
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infinity_Gems

Total 25 points


10. King Kandy
quote: (post)
Originally posted by King Kandy
Professor Zoom -6 points
Dr. Strange -6 points

Amalgam Level 1 - 4 points
BFR - 5 points
Prep Time level 2 - 2 points
Knowledge of the opposition level 2 -2 points

11. Digimark007

quote:

So far:

The Doctor (6) – Must Re-choose
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor...abib_Ben_Hassan

Lex Luthor (1)
http://en.dcdatabaseproject.com/Lex...%28New_Earth%29

Thor (6)
http://www.marvel.com/universe/Thor_(Thor_Odinson)

...

I'm adding Power Boost (4) and Prep Lv. 1 (1) as well.

Total (so far): 18

I have a couple more to add, but need to check on a few things first. They'll be in by the end of the day.


12. SmurphSmash!
quote:

Smurph's draft-

Mogo 6 points – Must re-choose

Ray Palmer- 4 points
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_At...s%29#Ray_Palmer

Dkrtzy RRR – 6 points
http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/8864/dkrtzyze0.jpg


13. Evangel94 – Casual Matches only


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Oh, you missed my most recent update (well before the deadline). Lemme repost it. Because the one in the above post is incomplete.


The Doctor (6)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor...abib_Ben_Hassan

Lex Luthor (1)
http://en.dcdatabaseproject.com/Lex...%28New_Earth%29

Thor (6)
http://www.marvel.com/universe/Thor_(Thor_Odinson)

Ultimate Reed Richards (2)
http://www.marvel.com/universe/Mist...stic_(Ultimate)

...

Power Boost (4)
Prep Lv. 1 (1)
Spying on Opponent (5)

Total: 25

....

{edit} Why was Doctor banned? Especially when Strange wasn't. No one even really made a case against him, besides some erroneous assumptions from Stacks when I first drafted him.


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Symmetric Chaos
Fractal King

Gender: Male
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I confirm my selection.

quote: (post)
Originally posted by DigiMark007
Oh, you missed my most recent update (well before the deadline). Lemme repost it. Because the one in the above post is incomplete.


The Doctor (6)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor...abib_Ben_Hassan

Lex Luthor (1)
http://en.dcdatabaseproject.com/Lex...%28New_Earth%29

Thor (6)
http://www.marvel.com/universe/Thor_(Thor_Odinson)

Ultimate Reed Richards (2)
http://www.marvel.com/universe/Mist...stic_(Ultimate)

...

Power Boost (4)
Prep Lv. 1 (1)
Spying on Opponent (5)

Total: 25

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Evangel's making you repick for the Doctor.


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Saw that. Edited my post at the bottom. I haven't seen one clear argument against him from anyone, so it's a bit of a shock. Mogo was debated for pages on end, so at least with something like that Smurph had ample opportunity to ponder the possibility of him gettign banned. I'd like to at least know why he's above Strange, or how he is above herald when he's stripped of the stuff that I can't afford to purchase. I'm not in the business of complaining for the sake of it, but I'd at least like to see the justification for it.


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quote: (post)
Originally posted by DigiMark007
Saw that. Edited my post at the bottom. I haven't seen one clear argument against him from anyone, so it's a bit of a shock. Mogo was debated for pages on end, so at least with something like that Smurph had ample opportunity to ponder the possibility of him gettign banned. I'd like to at least know why he's above Strange, or how he is above herald when he's stripped of the stuff that I can't afford to purchase. I'm not in the business of complaining for the sake of it, but I'd at least like to see the justification for it.


http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/d/doctor.htm

According to this link:

"The Doctor can do virtually anything if he puts his mind to it. He is capable of transforming living matter and teleporting people at a thought. On one occasion he even held Italy stationery while the rest of the Earth continued to move, causing it to vanish under the Mediterranean.

The latest Doctor is actually a great deal more powerful than Doctors past; he describes himself as the first Doctor and the last Doctor (apparently he has all the memories of Doctors past in addition to his own). No reason seems to have been given why he is so much more powerful than his predecessors. "

Its still pretty unclear about his level of power, and I am not familiar with him, so I have to assume to maximum for his power. IE Bending Reality to his whim. And Dr. Strange is not drafted as "classic". Feel free to correct me if I am wrong, I simply am trying to address all questionable choices.

EDIT:
I am using this as a benchmark for Herald level. If your character can beat, before succumbing to the rules of the tournament, without any preparation, in an impromptu battle, a full out Silver Surfer, Sentry, Superman, Thor, or Loki individually, then they are above Herald level.


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Bending reality is banned, and costs about 20 pts. And I was never clear as to how "reality manip" is different than organic and/or inorganic matter manip (the former of which is also banned and too expensive, and the former of which we've discussed in PMs). The distinction seems nonexistent, and I'm not even sure what reality manip. means.

As for the rest, teleporting (so is NC'er banned?), telekinesis (the Italy feat)...how is holding Italy in place for a few seconds > planet busting?

Yeah, he's powerful. But he's a herald-type magic user that has most of his >> herald stuff blocked because of the purchases.

If he's banned, that's fine. I'll accept it willingly. But it's still a bit of a blindside since there was no discussion whatsoever on him, and as such I never really had a chance to defend him as a pick.


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quote: (post)
Originally posted by DigiMark007
Bending reality is banned, and costs about 20 pts. And I was never clear as to how "reality manip" is different than organic and/or inorganic matter manip (the former of which is also banned and too expensive, and the former of which we've discussed in PMs). The distinction seems nonexistent, and I'm not even sure what reality manip. means.

As for the rest, teleporting (so is NC'er banned?), telekinesis (the Italy feat)...how is holding Italy in place for a few seconds > planet busting?

Yeah, he's powerful. But he's a herald-type magic user that has most of his >> herald stuff blocked because of the purchases.

If he's banned, that's fine. I'll accept it willingly. But it's still a bit of a blindside since there was no discussion whatsoever on him, and as such I never really had a chance to defend him as a pick.


Well, here is your chance to defend him. If he basically just the Dr. Strange of the wildstorm universe, then keep him. However, it may hurt you to use him in the future since he is an obscure character, and I haven't seen any scans of him. It's really hard when a character isn't as well known.

I am using this as a benchmark for Herald level. If your character can beat, before succumbing to the rules of the tournament, without any preparation, in an impromptu battle, a full out Silver Surfer, Sentry, Superman, Thor, or Loki individually, then they are above Herald level.

EDIT: I am not picking on you, or anyone else. I am simply addressing all characters that I even received one complaint about in one fell swoop. Tournament matches at the very least won't start until the middle/late of the upcoming week so you have time to make a quick change.


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Evangel, how can anyone buy reality warp? What characters in the Herald level class can reality warp? Honest question.


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Christ. I have 2 minutes left on a library computer because mine ahs a virus and is in the shop. I can't until probably tomorrow. More reason why these things should be discussed before announced, but I ca defend him sometime soon (hopefully).


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Originally posted by DigiMark007
Christ. I have 2 minutes left on a library computer because mine ahs a virus and is in the shop. I can't until probably tomorrow. More reason why these things should be discussed before announced, but I ca defend him sometime soon (hopefully).


Then you get extra time to choose. Don't worry.


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quote: (post)
Originally posted by DigiMark007
Christ. I have 2 minutes left on a library computer because mine ahs a virus and is in the shop. I can't until probably tomorrow. More reason why these things should be discussed before announced, but I ca defend him sometime soon (hopefully).


If he is basically just Dr. Strange/Dr. Fate/Loki/Baron Mordu of the wildstorm universe, then keep him. I only received one complaint about his link being ambiguous, so I'd rather just get clarification from you just to be clear. Links can sometimes be deceptive.


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Well, here is your chance to defend him. If he basically just the Dr. Strange of the wildstorm universe, then keep him. However, it may hurt you to use him in the future since he is an obscure character, and I haven't seen any scans of him. It's really hard when a character isn't as well known.

I am using this as a benchmark for Herald level. If your character can beat, before succumbing to the rules of the tournament, without any preparation, in an impromptu battle, a full out Silver Surfer, Sentry, Superman, Thor, or Loki individually, then they are above Herald level.

EDIT: I am not picking on you, or anyone else. I am simply addressing all characters that I even received one complaint about in one fell swoop. Tournament matches at the very least won't start until the middle/late of the upcoming week so you have time to make a quick change.


The Doctor isn't that obscure around here.

I hope I'm not being stepping on any toes but this might help some:
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f98/t456443.html

The Doctor's main entry is about half way down the page.


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quote: (post)
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
The Doctor isn't that obscure around here.

I hope I'm not being stepping on any toes but this might help some:
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f98/t456443.html

The Doctor's main entry is about half way down the page.


Well based on those, links, he doesn't seem above Herald level. Thanks for the impute. smile

lol, Digimark why didn't you just post a link to the scans you posted of the Doctor?


If there is nothing else, and everything is settled, I'd like everyone to simply confirm their choices, and I will start creating a schedule.


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Originally posted by Devil Lance
My team
Firestorm http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firestorm_%28comics%29
(Raymond/ Stein Combo) - 6 points

Level 1 Amalgam - 4 points
King Hawk
composed of
Hawkman http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawkman
(Carter Hall with claw of Horus) 4 points Mind - Carter's fighting skills, nth metal, claw of horrus, hawk man suit , other standard equipment, memories of his other lives

Aquaman http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aquaman
(Orin with water hand) 4 points Body- strength, durabilty, senses, speed, reflexes, water hand, telepathy, etc etc

prep level 1 - 1 point + power boosting during prep 4 points + level 2 knowledge of opponents 2 points

6+4+4++4+4+2+1=25

this is my final team I confirm it


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