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Even with that change Celestials still win.
Nah


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FP Tyrant and Galactus Vs. Arishem and Exitar would be more evenly matched.


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FP Tyrant and Galactus Vs. Arishem and Exitar would be evenly matched.
Why? Galactus does not have feats to say he is greater than Arishem and FP is weaker than Galactus


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i dont even think team 1 can win against 1 celestial.


i dont think tyrant or galactus have ever been depicted as powerful as a celestial wink.

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Nah
You have Ymir - Skyfather level. FP Tyrant who lost to regular Galactus and Galactus who himself does not have feats to say he is equal to Celestials let alone the top ones.


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Why? Galactus does not have feats to say he is greater than Arishem and FP is weaker than Galactus


Except if we take Black Arc, what Galactus could have literally done.

You don't think it would evenly matched. I see no reason why could Arishem and Exitar handle FP Tyrant and Galactus just like that or handle them at all.

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i dont think tyrant or galactus have ever been depicted as powerful as a celestial wink.


Well, Galactus was said to be equal Eternity in power. Celestial were depicted as Eternity children. I always got a feeling that Marvel holds Galactus higher in raw power than Celestial.

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You have Ymir - Skyfather level. FP Tyrant who lost to regular Galactus and Galactus who himself does not have feats to say he is equal to Celestials let alone the top ones.


One of rare appearances where we saw Galactus looking good and in power was against FP Tyrant. And he was actually serious when faced him, no underestimating or blabbing around.


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You have Ymir - Skyfather level. FP Tyrant who lost to regular Galactus and Galactus who himself does not have feats to say he is equal to Celestials let alone the top ones.


First, Ymir is being replaced so it's actually Surtur that is left. Surtur with Twilight sword is higher then a skyfather first of all if your saying Ymir is skyfather level. Second, what are these celestial battle feats your speaking of that make you say they are above Galactus? These must be numerous for you to say without a doubt the Celestials would win. So, please name these feats that place celestials above Galactus with ease.

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Well, Galactus was said to be equal Eternity in power. Celestial were depicted as Eternity children. I always got a feeling that Marvel holds Galactus higher in raw power than Celestial.



never have they stated galactus to be as powerful as eternity. or a celestial. i think you mean they stated galactus to be Important to the role of the universes survival (eternity also). but in raw power he is leaps and bounds below either or. and i think they have been pretty consistant in showing him to not be as powerful as a celestial either wink.

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never have they stated galactus to be as powerful as eternity. or a celestial.


And when was stated that Celestial is as powerful as Galactus?

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and i think they have been pretty consistant in showing him to not be as powerful as a celestial either wink.


And none of Celestial (excluding Scathan) feats come close as what was Galactus trying to do and shown capable off in Black Arc.


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First, Ymir is being replaced so it's actually Surtur that is left. Surtur with Twilight sword is higher then a skyfather first of all if your saying Ymir is skyfather level. Second, what are these celestial battle feats your speaking of that make you say they are above Galactus? These must be numerous for you to say without a doubt the Celestials would win. So, please name these feats that place celestials above Galactus with ease.
I would love to know too roll eyes (sarcastic)


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a celestial took thors godblast coupled with his belt of strength to ill effects while it completely drove galactus away from earth screaming in pain and agony.

not to mention that odin said the he repelled galactus (by himself) when he came to eat asgard.

while a single celestial stopped odin zues and vishnu by simply raising his hand wink.


and marvel wrote in one of thier letters that they have depicted the celestials on a higher level of power because.

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a celestial took thors godblast coupled with his belt of strength to ill effects while it completely drove galactus away from earth screaming in pain and agony.


An extremely weak Galactus.
And you forgot about Sue and Celestial and a hole. wink

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not to mention that odin said the he repelled galactus (by himself) when he came to eat asgard.


Again, very very weak Galactus.

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while a single celestial stopped odin zues and vishnu by simply raising his hand wink.


And Galactus was on a way to eat Omniverse. So...

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and marvel wrote in one of their letters that they have depicted the celestials on a higher level of power because.


Where? Where is this letter? Written to who?


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Not to mention Juggs basically walked through a Godblast with no effect. So, your saying Juggs is greater then Big G? Big G has also never had his arm cut off or decapitated as celestials have. So, again BATTLE FEATS that place celestials above Galactus without question as some are implying? They should be numerous

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a celestial took thors godblast coupled with his belt of strength to ill effects while it completely drove galactus away from earth screaming in pain and agony.

not to mention that odin said the he repelled galactus (by himself) when he came to eat asgard.

while a single celestial stopped odin zues and vishnu by simply raising his hand wink.


and marvel wrote in one of thier letters that they have depicted the celestials on a higher level of power because.
You can't be serious What the f**k?


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well then, what places galactus above celestials??? where are these scans. i've posted the letter before, let me find it again.

616 galactus now.

you can also not say that galactus was WEAK when he came to asgard, because it isnt an on panel feat. just a statement from odin wink. stretching the truth perhaps?


also, it was stated that the celestials LET the destroyer pierce them to "study" the weapon in which they were fighting. same with sue richards. which makes that arguement comparable to "weak" galactus.... if you ask me.


galactus even if he starts the fight "fully powered" will revert back to his old "weak" state eventually. to which he will lose the fight.


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You can't be serious What the f**k?


atleast say something RELEVANT... if you are so "serious" give evidence that says otherwise.

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It is relevant your post was bull hence "you can't be serious". You use very low showings to try and make an argument.


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First, Ymir is being replaced so it's actually Surtur that is left. Surtur with Twilight sword is higher then a skyfather first of all if your saying Ymir is skyfather level.
Same thing Skyfatherish level. Celestial are well beyond Skyfather level and these are Celestial that are more powerful than entire host of celestials

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Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi Second, what are these celestial battle feats your speaking of that make you say they are above Galactus?These must be numerous for you to say without a doubt the Celestials would win. So, please name these feats that place celestials above Galactus with ease.
Well Cosmic Cube being compared to nothing compare to Celestial , Also Thor saying that Galactus might be more powerful than Odin and than Celestial are better. Also there was another comparation that Galactus might be celestial after his cycle in marvel ends. The 5th host Stoped the Goblin Force etc. Also Galactus being socked that Hotu was able to kill a Celestial. Again there is nothing feat wise that shows Galactus = Your average Celestial let alone these guys.


Also I never said that Celestials are easily above Galactus I said nothing Galactus has done says he is clealy above you average Celestial let alone guys who are more powerful than entire host Celestials.


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In SW it was said Galactus being equal to Eternity. We may assume also power wise (actually we can assume Galactus is more powerful due to Black Celestial Arc) and Celestial are Eternity children.
Galactus proved to be an Omniversal threat. He showed that he can consume entire Omniverse. When has some Celestial come close to such level of power? No Celestial excluding Scathan hasn't shown close such level of power. Galactus smites Exitar and Arishem combined.

And then Thor is in doubt Galactus might be more powerful than Odin and you bring that up like it has some weight. Come on.

What is stopping Goblin Force compared to what Galactus was actually already doing? Yeah, not much.

We can actually assume that when Galactus was absorbing Omniverse that he would consume entire Celestial race during it and, of course, still wouldn't be enough for him.


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Celestials wins this

For all the jobbing Eternity has done, he's recreated Earth. Good feat

Aforementioned numerous times, Galactus and Eternity....Marvel tends to job them out. That's sad


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