He thought he was god of Hueco Mundo...Which he was. Aizen did not reside in Hueco Mundo until recent dates, and you are mistaking his claims of godhood with claims of omniscience, granted the god thing was an arrogant boast, but he did rule Hueco Mundo.
If we go by Warcraft's definition, he was worshipped, and he was technically immortal/long-lived/did not age. I'm kewl like that. Granted, it probably does not apply here.
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Seems i misinterpreted, i thought you implied i said that.
So, do you think Yammy is a Vasto Lorde?
As i see it the only ones we can confirm are most likely VL's are Stark, and Wonderwiess.
In my opinion?
Stark, Wonderwiess and Ulquiorra
The first thing (or one of) he said was, "you don't have masks, so you're not hollows". This pretty much proves he has limited knowledge of Hueco Mundo. He was not immediately certain there were not hollow. If he was ruling ALL of Hueco Mundo he'd be aware of 3 beings stronger than himself. Niether did he seem to be aware of Stark.
Everything said about Barragan is tripe imo
I see no reason to think he knew anything about Hueco Mundo beyond Las Noches.
What the hell are you talking about? There is literally one Hollow who apparently lacked a mask, and that was Starrk. Once again, you are asserting that ruling something requires you to be omniscient of everything in it. Barragan is no Enel. Limited knowledge? How do you come up with this conclusion, though of course it is limited, just not to the extent you seem to believe. Three beings stronger than himself? And...Who would those be? Surely you are not including Tousen and Gin into that claim, especially Tousen, and Gin has not proven to be stronger either. Aizen sure. Starrk, yeah he supposedly is, but I do not see why. Wonderweiss is not stronger than Barragan, he was having his ass kicked by a Liutenant Arrancar, until her mask broke she was dominating him.
Also, you once mentioned he had no showings of strength, speed, or durability.
Untrue.
In terms of physical strength, he smashed a large building with a casual swipe of his axe.
In terms of speed, he was able to surprise Soifon, one of the fastest Shinigami, with his and grab her.
In terms of durability, he tanked Soifon's Bankai pretty well.
Okay, let's try this again. Why do you think he knew of Hueco Mundo, outside of Las Noches. Any proof of it at all?
Destroying a building is your strength feat... I'm not sure how that could be considered a feat of strength as no character has has difficulty in doing that same by accident. I mean, Grimmjow kicked Ichigo through several buildings in Las Noches, yet i doubt he's stronger than Barragan.
I'm unaware of this feat. I looked it up and all i could find as a Shunpo to her.
I would guess his aura of decay prevented most of the damage.
...Even if there was possibly nothing beyond their 'kingdom' ?
They'd run all around for potentially eternity looking for something to put under their rule? Why? he believes himself to be god, the result in his mind would be he'd win, nothing interesting.
He was so bored that he would have made his army fight itself. And you're telling me, he wouldn't have been interested in invasion. Especially since he said his army was awaiting invasion. What exactly were they awaiting if they though they were all there was? There's nothing to make us think he has such a limited viewpoint, all other Hollow's seemed to know there were others around so why not Barragan? Why do you think he alone would somehow be completely ignorant of anything beyond like a 3 mile radius?
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Isn't this all basically what I said back in the Kenpachi thread?
Ichio's power is flat out stated to be inconsistent on a second by second basis.. no theories needed.
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Baranggan is now being demoted from King of all Hallows for ALL of Hueco Mundo to just a group leader? When did this happen?
And, no, Baranggan is the only confirmed Vasto Lorde. Sure, it wasn't stated directly, but being the King of all hallows would put him above every hallow including other Vasto Lorde.
Hun, most of the time you tell me to not get worked up, I am completely calm.
Why? A better question is what leads you to believe Barragan and Barragan alone had absolutely no knowledge of Hueco Mundo beyond a few miles? He is not merely proclaiming himself the king of Hueco Mundo, others in the manga support and refer to him as such.
What do you think takes more strength, punching through a wall, or punching the wall with enough force to cut directly through the entire thing? That was what Barragan did. Sealed, I may add. The only person with definately better cutting feats is Kenpachi, that I can recall anyway. Also, he was able to completely overpower Soifon physically, something not even her mentor, Yoruichi, was able to do, the same Yoruichi who could physically knock out Yammy, who although the weakest sealed did have fairly impressive Hierro.
Hmmm, i was just watchig Arrancar encyclopedia, you know it's impled all the espada are VL's?
Reguardless, i understand your reasoning. After talking about it with my friend, i've changed my mind. Before i was thinking more along the lines of indesputable proof, but, that's not what it's about. It's just about what you want to believe.
Imo, espada's 5-1 are VL's
Simply because 5 and higher (yammy beinbg the exception) use weapons even while released. Personally i take that as a sign they are VL's.
Also the statement "Vasto Lorde's battle capabilites exceed that of a captain" is generalized to your average captain.
Nnoitra only fought Kenpachi in a physical blade battle, in which Kenpachi is well beyond the average captain.
That's what i like to think atleast.
Everyone above that has shown up a captain quite clearly.
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Nov 7th, 2009 01:52 AM
Limited knowledge? How do you come up with this conclusion, though of course it is limited, just not to the extent you seem to believe. Three beings stronger than himself? And...Who would those be? Surely you are not including Tousen and Gin into that claim, especially Tousen, and Gin has not proven to be stronger either. Aizen sure. Starrk, yeah he supposedly is, but I do not see why. Wonderweiss is not stronger than Barragan, he was having his ass kicked by a Liutenant Arrancar, until her mask broke she was dominating him. 
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