dont get me wrong, i think goku would without a doubt win, but thats just because in that universe their "power" is given differently than in...well any other universe besides maybe bleach. in naruto if you get stabbed, you will be injured (unless you have a tech that counters it) in dbz....you know i honestly dont understand the 'rules' of how their durability works, i mean they take blasts head on with no damage, then they take a blast and they are hurting (with no physical damage visible) idk its just dumb to pair anything from any other universe to dbz imo apart from maybe bleach, or some american comic characters emphasis on the 'some'
It could be either inaccurate or accurate but here's my analysis on the situation. If Naruto isn't already in kyuubi mode then he's dead right off the bat. Also since Goku has Kaoken at this point, then he would beat Ichigo and Grimmjow like they owed him money. Yusuke would be the last man standing but would eventually fall.
However if Naruto were in his nine tailed fox mode from the start(it can be four, six or even all nine) then Goku might have some trouble for a few minutes but would still mutilate Naruto.
Overall, Goku and Dragonball Z are ridiculous when it comes to fights.
Goku alone is too strong compared to Grimjow, Yusuke, Ichigo and Naruto. Earlier in Freeza saga he bruised and injured Freeza with a punch and Freeza in very weakened condition and cut in two before, survived the planet explosion and don't forget Goku is a planet buster. If you count newest DBZ OVA, he thought Freeza is not very strong that even he thinks that Freeza is just a training tool for Goten and Trunks (Some KMC member here stated that Akira Toriyama created this OVA so I can say it's canon). So, at the end of DBZ he must be stronger or if we count GT, this is easier for Goku.
the problem is that there really is no way to know if he is stronger/faster than grim jaw or ichigo, i say since there are 2 that are (at the very least) close to goku's power then they win, but i think that ichigo at his peak is in the millions of power lvl
Goku has been a planetary threat since the Saiyan saga. And since this is during the Ginyu fight, he has grown stronger by not only fighting Vegeta, but also training in 100X earths normal gravity. Lets say even one of them is as strong as a member of the Ginyu force (Which they arent. Aside from probably PEAK Yusuke.)....well...we saw what Goku did to the members of the Ginyu Force. And if I recall correctly, Recoome and Burter both fell to physical attacks...
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nobody except yusuke and goku have ever had energy that made the earth itself tremble so how can you say ichigo and grimjow have the same amount of energy as each other
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thats because it is a different kind of fighting, its swords.
in dbz its all huge blasts and destruction that shows how powerful they are.
in bleach they might be capable of great distruction, but they use concentrated attacks meant to kill them without excess energy, special techniques, their speed, and their sword has their spirit energy focused on the blade to make it both tough and sharp, that is where it shows how much power they have.
and yes they have blasts as well the cero, and yes they have never been as big as anything in dbz, however that is the same problem. pretty much everything in bleach is meant to destroy the individual, in dbz i guess they still are but they dont try and contain it. they even say multiple times in bleach that a mark of TRUE power is the control of a vast spirit energy.
so concluding, you cannot say that "they never made the earth rumble." because they never were meant to
How do you explain Zaraki Kenpachi then? All he does is release raw spirit energy. And as far as I know, he has a greater amount of energy than most of the show's characters as well.
when your energy alone affects the earth then its a constant battle with contol and if you fight by bleach rules ichigo would barely even be able to move when it comes to goku's spirit energy. The man blocked a sword with his finger and it was swung by a super saiyan. which means that there where tons of pressure added to the swing
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that was after goku became WAY more powerful that he is in this fight. but im done with this one, i just cant think of any way to communicate what i am thinking lol. just know this is not conceding defeat, this is just lazynes
Irrelevant here. Goku could blow up a planet at this stage with an energy blast or something. But he CANT do that here.
Again - Irrelevant. At this point, Goku was much stronger than the incarnation in THIS vs thread. Also, Trunks and Goku both admitted he didn't swing full force. So there is no way of really saying "it was swung with some serious strength."
so I'll say again: What will Goku do if all of the FIVE warriors unleash their ultimates and blitz him at once? What will he do?
I'd say a majority of it gets avoided/deflected by Goku.
Ichigo = Vaizard Getsuga Tensho can be deflected rather easily, I think.
Yusuke = I...don't actually remember Yusuke's final attack, but as he poses the biggest threat, I'd say Goku would more than likely avoid the attack.
Grim "Jaw" = The Gran Rey Cero isn't much different from the Getsuga Tensho in this case. Hell, Goku could probably go Kaio Ken once and disrupt both Gran Rey and Getsuga Tensho.
Naruto = Assuming the Wind Rasengan Shuriken is anything like a Destructo Disk, Goku'll just keep out of its way. If not, it's a simple matter of knocking it away, or even catching it and throwing it back.
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I have a dream! A dream to see Naruto at his peak get mutilated by Goku in the worst way. A dream where Ichigo dies and is not brought back by plotkai. A dream where anti-heroes like Grimmjow that even the author leaves out are not given main-character plotkai. I actually think Yusuke's cool so I'll leave him out. But for the most part, those against Goku please...please...please don't ruin this dream for me.
If you can do that then I thank you. If not oh well.
what i was trying to hint at was goku is in a way better physical position than the other fighters. Goku is physically stronger than all of them and he has more durability than all of them plus he can dish out way more energy than anyone here. Kaioken will see to that.
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Not irrelevant at all. Goku's planet destroying ability is a direct sign of his high level of ki. Ki can also enhance physical attacks instead of being shot in beams, I.E. Kaioken.
So you are saying a planet busting character who isn't allowed to fire off energy beams can beat a planet busting character who IS allowed to fire off energy beams? And who has 3 other people on his team?
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