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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Quincy
So you are saying a planet busting character who isn't allowed to fire off energy beams can beat a planet busting character who IS allowed to fire off energy beams? And who has 3 other people on his team?
yes considering in Dbz it doesnt take much to blow up the planet simple ki blasts could get the job done and i think goku can tank anything they can throw at him
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Jan 17th, 2010 06:43 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by yungz22
yes considering in Dbz it doesnt take much to blow up the planet simple ki blasts could get the job done
right yeah again - irrelevant. Goku CAN NOT use any energy blasts in this fight. He can only use his own martial arts abilities.
quote: (post ) Originally posted by yungz22
i think goku can tank anything they can throw at him
So goku can survive a planet busting energy blast? Is that what you are saying?
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Jan 17th, 2010 10:09 PM
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Whether he's able to survive one or not, he can still easily dodge it with Instant Transmission.
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Jan 17th, 2010 11:32 PM
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Wait, is someone arguing that Ichigo, Yusuke, Grimmjaw, or Naruto are planetbusters?
Because none of them are. Not even close.
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Jan 18th, 2010 01:12 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
Whether he's able to survive one or not, he can still easily dodge it with Instant Transmission.
Ginyu Force Saga Goku doesn't know IT iirc.
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Jan 18th, 2010 01:18 AM
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Oh, is that the only Goku we're going by? Nevermind then. Like Mike said though, none of those three are even planet busters.
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Jan 18th, 2010 01:20 AM
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Goku can tank any thing they can dish out
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Jan 18th, 2010 04:41 AM
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Vegeta survived a planet busting attack in the saiyan saga...Why couldnt Goku survive one in the Ginyu saga?
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Which one? The Spirit Bomb?
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Jan 18th, 2010 09:43 AM
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I believe he was talking about the Kaio-ken X4 Kamehameha that surpassed the Galick Gun (which Vegeta was going to destroy the earth with).
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Jan 18th, 2010 09:47 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
I believe he was talking about the Kaio-ken X4 Kamehameha that surpassed the Galick Gun (which Vegeta was going to destroy the earth with).
Exactly...
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Quincy
Planet buster argument is so out of whack. Strong enough to blow up a planet, not strong enough to blow up a person with one blast? Why even gauge that as a technique?
well put...individual anime characters are more durable than planets due to their aura and condensed power
Goku in the saiyan saga might be taken down but his speed is just the major factor on this one
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Jan 29th, 2010 01:37 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Quincy
So goku can survive a planet busting energy blast? Is that what you are saying?
dont contradict yourself...you said earlier that planet busting attacks can blow up planets but sometimes cannot blow up individuals...same thing applies to goku
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Jan 29th, 2010 01:39 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by DBZDefender
dont contradict yourself...you said earlier that planet busting attacks can blow up planets but sometimes cannot blow up individuals...same thing applies to goku
I didn't say that. That's what was already implied and established.
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Jan 29th, 2010 02:18 AM
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i realized that a few seconds later...my bad
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Jan 29th, 2010 02:20 AM
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You say that Goku's speed is the major factor here.
I know Goku is fast. Clearly. But what makes him that much faster than all of these characters? Each of them vanishes and then appears instantly behind their opponents or whatever - so what makes him faster than them?
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Jan 29th, 2010 02:21 AM
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the intensity of his speed...the vanishing factor in all anime is so overused that its getting annoying but the fact is goku has enough evidence around him on his power and the fact that gokus power is greater than all of theirs which then connects to the factor of speed so when he vanishes its sort of considered faster than when anyone else in this fight vanishes...it sounds weird but thats kind of the facts
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Jan 29th, 2010 02:24 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by DBZDefender
the intensity of his speed...the vanishing factor in all anime is so overused that its getting annoying but the fact is goku has enough evidence around him on his power and the fact that gokus power is greater than all of theirs which then connects to the factor of speed so when he vanishes its sort of considered faster than when anyone else in this fight vanishes...it sounds weird but thats kind of the facts
Ohhhh you are saying because he's super strong - he's also super fast? That it correlates?
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Jan 29th, 2010 02:34 AM
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goku trains with tons as clothing...this causes his power to increase as well as his speed so in a way yes it does correlate...when characters in anime vanish at a fast speed during a fight it means that the ratio of speed between the vanisher and the opponent is like 50:1 or something (random ratio)...so goku compared to these guys could be almost the same thing making his vanishes as well as speed faster
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Jan 29th, 2010 02:38 AM
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Yeah I understand what you are saying.
You are wrong though.
Case and Point - Super Trunks vs Perfect Cell. Superior Strength Trunks - but his speed was too slow. Trunks was WAY ahead of Ginyu Saga Goku at this point.
Power in DBZ does NOT equal speed.
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