For crying out loud could you please stop repeating ‘to some people’ over and over again. Do you think I at least deserve some explanation as to why it’s logical? If your going to keep repeating that phrase again and again as it stands your logic is that just having an opinion in the first place makes it logical. While you try to explain it to me take into consideration Martian Manhunter is a non-human and so is Superman. Also in part of the explanation I want you to take into account that non-humans have been essential in preserving human life on earth.
I don’t care that he kills non-humans its just hypocritical.
Sure it is Kryptonians are non-humans. Quite frankly the only difference between them is that on average they are more powerful, they are essentially the same as human beings.
First of all that’s not why he doesn’t do it. Secondly you don’t think its strange that nobody in Gotham is up in arms that the Joker hasn’t been dealt with? Nobody is really that bothered that a mass murderer keeps escaping from jail and on ocassion tortures people to death. You don’t see it as a plot device?
Worst case scenerio if he was in jail he wouldn’t be there for long and not all DC superheroes would be against him. Are the Green lanterns still allowed to kill?
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I've read that and enjoyed it but of course then you have the stupidness of people giving a shit about mind-wiping a rapist who was boasting to do it again.
Have you read infinite crisis?
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Last edited by Deadline on Aug 25th, 2010 at 02:32 PM
no, they're aliens. with entirely different organs and cellular structure. they only look like humans on a superficial level.
i didn't say it was why he did it.
accept that they are. constantly. i thought you read batman comics?
yes, they are. and a good portion JLA would be against him whether they'd killed before, because of one simple reason: batman said himself that if he kills joker, it'll be the start, not the end.
You are giving the impression that you’re trying to dodge the point, so I’m going to ask you to address this post again, please respond.
Yes I know you missed the point and you said exactly what I thought you would. They don’t just look like humans they behave exactly like humans. So the only reason why you’re a distinguishing between humans and Krptonians is genetics, that’s racism. Also according to that logic any human being who gets his genetics altered could be killed by Batman.
I don’t care. I’m just making an explanation.
I don’t read Batman I just have read a lot of and own a lot of Batman comics. So what that means is that either you’re exaggerating or lying or its just a freak stroke of bad luck that I missed it. Please prove that there are constantly protesting about it.
On second thoughts I think I vaguely remember something about that, still want proof though.
I’m sure some of them would be against him but not all of them, yeah and they would be pretty much against him because that’s another plot device. That still doesn’t mean he would end up in jail when he has counter measures for all of them and would get backing from some superheroes. I’m sorry but if the Green lanterns are allowed to kill its completely illogical for them to try and stop him.
Also that’s another contradiction people are worried about superheroes killing but they’re not worried about superheroes breaking other laws, in Batmans case he tortures criminals for information.
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What points was I dodging? Thats funny because I thought thats what you were doing. I should have done what I was going to do in the first place, ignore you.
Ok I'm going to give you a little while to respond.
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Last edited by Deadline on Aug 25th, 2010 at 05:19 PM
The reason Batman gets this kind of pressure to go lethal, is because he is viewed as equal to Gotham P.D. in the city( though the department wouldn't admit that.) Spider Man & Daredevil don't have that kind of pressure to cross the line. And they have the Punisher willing to go where they wouldn't.
If only DC had stuck it out with Jason Todd, instead of just making him insane. He could have been the Punisher at DC.
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Look I tell you what I'm just going to lay your post out when I have time and explain what a mess it is i'll let other people decide. Clearly you have a problem admitting when you don't know what you're talking about.
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like some said charecters change over time so does it matter if the batman in the films is not like the batman in the comics the films are a diffrent take on batman then the comics are
I doubt it. Chris Nolan and the rest of the crew understand the characters' personalities. So I doubt they would have Batman kill anyone.
Ra's Al Ghul's death wasn't a direct kill either. Was it a stupid decision for Batman to leave him on that train to die? I guess so. But was it direct killing? No.
A lot of people also say that he killed Two-Face in The Dark Knight. I guess I could see that as a kill. But it was an accidental kill so it doesn't count.
Actually, the Batman films (all of them) are supposed to be ADAPTATIONS. So you can't just do whatever you want to them. Are you allowed to make some changes? Of course you are (no adaptation stays 100% true to the source material). But are you allowed to make any major changes the break the rules of the characters' personalities? No.
It depends wether you think Batman killing is that important considering he already tortures people it's a next logical step. Quite frankly its illogical and to be quite honest people not used to the comics might not even understand it.
Nolan changed alot of stuff as well. Batman is arguably significantly weaker in DKR two dogs and Joker with a pole was giving him major problems. Also look at the fight at the party comic Batman would have probably had those guys finished in a couple of panels.
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