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Who will win Klitchko or Haye
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Wladimir landed 134 punches.

You were wrong.


So half the average of a heavyweight fight. and he won with that. So yeah, I was right.


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So half the average of a heavyweight fight. and he won with that. So yeah, I was right.


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In the end there was about 5 punches landed the whole fight and 3 of them were in the last round.


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Not the brightest are you?


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Your arrogance of "zomgz I was 100% correct in my assessment!!!11" completely took away from the supposed hyperbole that you might have tried to imply. So don't give me that "I'm smarter than you are, brah!!!" patronizing bullshit. It just makes you look like an asshole.


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Your arrogance of "zomgz I was 100% correct in my assessment!!!11" completely took away from the supposed hyperbole that you might have tried to imply. So don't give me that "I'm smarter than you are, brah!!!" patronizing bullshit. It just makes you look like an *******.


I was right and I am smarter than you. I said it was a boring fight and that hardly boy punches were thrown. You tried to prove me wrong with the stats which only proved me right in that Klitchko won by landing less than half the punches of an average heavyweight fight. Extreme hyperbole or not, I was still right and you were still wrong.


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Yeah mate it was a stinker. Haye wasted all our time diving like an italian footballer, and also was massively off balance due to posing stance all the way through due to trying to convince the laymen that he was somehow superior with said use of posing...no wonder the Klit was able to expose him with the jab all the way through. Still Vladimir bored me through his refusal to punish Haye for his lack of real engagement. A frustrating yawner.


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I was right and I am smarter than you. I said it was a boring fight and that hardly boy punches were thrown. You tried to prove me wrong with the stats which only proved me right in that Klitchko won by landing less than half the punches of an average heavyweight fight. Extreme hyperbole or not, I was still right and you were still wrong.


No you weren't, because you were trying pass your hyperbole off as fact. So yeah... stfu.


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No you weren't, because you were trying pass your hyperbole off as fact. So yeah... stfu.


Keep telling yourself that, you retard. You were wrong...I was right...So stop ****in' crying about it and get on with your life.


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No you weren't, so you have to result to personal insults in order to make up for your obvious butthurt over an internet discussion. laughing out loud

How pathetic.


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Na. I just call people as they project themselves. But keep telling yourself you were right. The fact remains the fight was boring with next to no action. You tried to prove me wrong with a statistic that if you had any clue what you were talking about you would realise it was proving me right thus further confirming the legitimacy of my other point which is you being a retard. Now off you pop sunshine.


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If you would have given any sort of indication that your hyperbole was nothing more than that: hyperbole, then you'd have a leg to stand on. But acting like your hyperbole was a factual statement doesn't make you correct. If you want to use personal insults to mask this fact and make your e-dick hard then laughing out loud @ that.


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If you would have given any sort of indication that your hyperbole was nothing more than that: hyperbole, then you'd have a leg to stand on. But acting like your hyperbole was a factual statement doesn't make you correct. If you want to use personal insults to mask this fact and make your e-dick hard then laughing out loud @ that.


So you're also the kind of retard that needs things laid out on a plate for them as well. there's a saying, when in a hole...

I'll let you Google the rest seeing as you're obviously to thick to know the rest.


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So you're also the kind of retard that needs things laid out on a plate for them as well. there's a saying, when in a hole...
Turn on your jet pack?


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So you're also the kind of retard that needs things laid out on a plate for them as well. there's a saying, when in a hole...

I'll let you Google the rest seeing as you're obviously to thick to know the rest.


Keep stroking that e-dick. I'm sure you'll need to in order to sleep through the night with such a low self esteem as to getting personal over an internet discussion.

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Keep stroking that e-dick. I'm sure you'll need to in order to sleep through the night with such a low self esteem as to getting personal over an internet discussion.

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Lets recap. I make a post with quite obvious exaggeration. You fail to recognise it and try and counter it and in the process make yourself look like an idiot before the penny drops but by then it's too late to edit your post so you dig in further and try and prove my point that it was a slow and boring fight wrong by posting the stats which prove that it was a slow and boring fight. I call out your stupidity and your freak out by constantly talking about my dick.

So what have learned from that?

That I was right all along and that you're a slow and stubborn homosexual retard that's obsessed with my penis.

Yet you're still harping on.

Amazing stuff.


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Oh. and we can also add hypocrite to that description seeing as apparently you calling me arrogant and an ******* doesn't count as 'getting personal' in your tiny mind.


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Lets recap. I make a post with quite obvious exaggeration. You fail to recognise it and try and counter it and in the process make yourself look like an idiot before the penny drops but by then it's too late to edit your post so you dig in further and try and prove my point that it was a slow and boring fight wrong by posting the stats which prove that it was a slow and boring fight. I call out your stupidity and your freak out by constantly talking about my dick.

So what have learned from that?

That I was right all along and that you're a slow and stubborn homosexual retard that's obsessed with my penis.

Yet you're still harping on.

Amazing stuff.


And now the truth...

The point of contention is the fact that you were acting like nothing was being thrown. I simply stated that Klitschko was landing consistently throughout the fight, which is the truth. He threw in total 509 punches, which is right in line with the heavyweight average. Just because most of the punches Wladimir landed/threw were jabs doesn't change this fact. They don't have to be haymakers for your point to be wrong, which it is. Now, point me to the "average" heavyweight fight where one fighter throws over 1000 punches, because I'd love to see it.

Also, I never said the fight was exciting at all, so don't try and project that point of view onto me. Yes, of course the fight was boring, but that's not what this was about.

So what have we learned?

You've taken this discussion way out of hand and resorted to personal insults in an effort to either:

A) Make your points seem stronger

or

B) Make yourself feel better

When in actuality, all it did was make you look desperate and pathetic.

And I see we've added some more insults into the mix. It just further proves my point that you need something to boost your self esteem, so insulting someone over the internet seems like the perfect way to do so. Whatever helps you sleep at night, brah. Moral victory for you, yay!!!! laughing out loud

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Oh. and we can also add hypocrite to that description seeing as apparently you calling me arrogant and an ******* doesn't count as 'getting personal' in your tiny mind.


I said attacking my intelligence over such an inconsequential point of contention such as this made you look like an assh*le, because it's the truth. I was being facetious with the gif I originally posted and was willing to drop the subject all together, but then you had to resort to that. erm


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Also, I never said the fight was exciting at all, so don't try and project that point of view onto me. Yes, of course the fight was boring, but that's not what this was about


So after all the hot air and gibberish we get get to the crux of the matter...That I was right and that if you hadn't failed to grasp obvious exaggeration in the 1st place (lack of intelligence.) and once you did grasp it hadn't just admitted your point above gracefully (stubbornness.) and then decided against resorting to insults while complaining about being insulted(hypocrisy) and then never harped on about penises (homosexual connotations) then this whole unpleasant thing could've been avoided.

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Now that I'm on the computer and not my mobile we can go through the stats in more detail.

The average punches thrown per round by a heavyweight is 46.

Klitschko managed just over 42...Below average.

The average landed is 17.3...He managed 11.7...way below average.

Haye managed an average of 29 punches per round and landed only 6

That gives us an overall average of 35.5 thrown with average of 8.85 landed

In %'s that's 77% of the average punches thrown in a heavyweight fight...And I'll be honest...That's higher than what I felt the fight was while watching it...Mostly because, like you said, for Klitschko it was overwhelmingly small jabs.

The average connected was 51% which is obviously way below average and further compounded why the fight was unbelievably boring.

Overall...Those stats vindicate my opinion that the fight was boring with hardly any punches and even more so hardly any effective or exciting punches to watch.

As for my opinion about Haye at least throwing more power punches...Fair enough...He was short of Klitschko by 14...But given that he was short of Klitschko's total by over 200 you can see why, for his part, he was at least making what little punches he was throwing reasonable to watch.

Now I'm quite willing to give up the petty arguments if you are.


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So after all the hot air and gibberish we get get to the crux of the matter...That I was right and that if you hadn't failed to grasp obvious exaggeration in the 1st place (lack of intelligence.) and once you did grasp it hadn't just admitted your point above gracefully (stubbornness.) and then decided against resorting to insults while complaining about being insulted(hypocrisy) and then never harped on about penises (homosexual connotations) then this whole unpleasant thing could've been avoided.

Been a pleasure.


I guess you missed this part, eh?

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Also, I never said the fight was exciting at all, so don't try and project that point of view onto me. Yes, of course the fight was boring, but that's not what this was about.


And you call me a homosexual for using nothing more than a metaphor to represent your obvious attempt at repairing your self esteem by attacking someone on a personal level over an internet discussion... while at the same time attacking my intelligence? And you've completely ignored most of what I was saying, but then turn around and call me the stubborn one?

I gotta say, I'm loving the irony.


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