No it's in the arena when Son and Daughter are about to fight and Anakin subjugates them.
I have read quotes from Deceived.
I see some hypocrisy in these statements. I have read posts which directly quoted Malgus' duels. You on the other hand have just admitted to not watching the Clone Wars and yet you claim that I am "arguing out of my ass".
Malgus tortured Adraas and drew the duel out, torturing him with force lightning then moving on to kill him with his bear hands. His match with Ven Zallow was pretty much silent though.
PIS and CIS is that he wasn't in the zone for his other matches.
You aren't really arguing that Malgus can defeat Zonakin. You are arguing that ROTS no zone Anakin is weaker than Malgus which I agree with. My entire argument has been based on if Anakin goes in the zone Malgus dies.
^ And to be fair, ROTS Anakin was only in the 1 Lightsaber fight and he reached his Uber Level in that fight.
And all this talk of him not being capable of repeating his Uberness kind of goes out the window when we see how well CW Anakin has fought against Dooku (twice now)..
On the occasions he does not reach his Zone state, we already know why. The novel tells us, he's been taught to considerably hold back on his raw power.
So its out of his own choice, not because he's not capable of it, or he requires exact circumstances to reach that level.
Anakin's lightaber skill is of Dooku and Windu level. Obi-Wan, also, stated that he could compete with Yoda. So while Malgus is among the strongest, Anakin is among the top of the strongest.
About Obi-Wan I don't agree that he achieved Oneness with the Force during fight with Grivous. That Force spoke through him only means that he was guided by the force. He didn't have that white blue glow emanating from him. He hadn't done anything extraordinary in that fight either. Proper Jedi of Old Republic especially like Obi could never experience Oneness simply because of limitations of old teachings
Yes but each circumstance in which Dooku fought Anakin, he for some reason held back his force power. Rather than dispatching him with TK and lightning, he elected to engage him in battle in spite of Form II's weakness to Form II.
Anakin's lightsaber skills are not Dooku or Windu level. His raw power is on the otherhand is beyond them both, or at least beyond Dooku's. I feel like if Anakin fought Windu he would find himself in a different situation than when he fought Dooku.
Maybe you haven't seen the latest fight yet. Dooku's force powers were all that kept Anakin from finishing him off.
I think you're confusing me with another poster. But I personally would not underestimate ROTS Anakin's Saber skills. Though not on par with Windu or Dooku, he seems to have mastered his chosen form, and well versed in other forms too. So I doubt skill would be a deciding factor.
Make that Thrice
Last edited by Darth Thor on Feb 15th, 2012 at 05:15 PM
According to your logic during 13 years after TFM Anakin was eating chicken and chips on a sofa, while watching holo-drama.
Most of his training he spent actively participating in war, where he not only faced impossible odds but fought with Dooku and Ventress on numerous occasions. It was plenty of time to become expert with lightsaber and in the Force. In real life doing martial arts I needed only 1 year of training to compete with black belts on equal terms.
Unless we talk about Luke you can't be one sided, when comparing between strongest Jedi. Fight is never one sided. There are always random elements, perfectly or badly executed techniques, cunning, positional advantages, changing emotional state, mistakes and even simple luck.
Even not mentioning that Palpatine most likely was toying with Windu to turn Anakin, after being kicked surely Sith of his caliber could roll backward and continue fighting. I am no Jedi and could do that.
My opinion is that Anakin would best Windu but I wrote "on level" because as I said: Fight is never one sided. Anakin was dominating whole fight with Obi and yet he lost. And ye, even almighty Luke was loosing fights in his prime.
Personally, I find it strange that towards the end of that short fight Palpatine became so slow and looked so exhausted, and non-force augmented kick made him fall like a grandpa with radiculitis and drop lightsaber.
When Anakin and Obi fought, they kicked, they disarmed each other and yet they kept fighting on and on.
From the Book of Sith, "Malgus submitted utterly to the dark side, and doing so made him an exemplary warrior. His battlefield feats have never been duplicated."
That's directly from Palpatine.
Also he could apparently use a lesser version of Force Storm, the wormhole version, called Force maelstrom " which creates an invulnerable energy sphere to block incoming attacks while bombarding enemies with debris and electrifying them with bolts of lightning." Palpatine has also "perfected" this technique.
As for the Mortis beings both the Son and Daughter are worshiped as gods by the nightsisters.
There are some other cool powers mentioned throughout the book. Like one ability, cyrokinesis, which allows a force user to remove heat from a living being which freezes them.
While not bad ass, force sever is supposedly a lesser form of midichlorian manipulation. Muur did not create his talisman a different exile named Sorzus Syn did. There is also lots of info on how the Nightsisters' powers work.
Not really. I dnt see the old guys like Palpatine, Yoda and Dooku having the same stamina as the much younger Anakin and Obi-Wan.
The AOTC novel even calls Yoda exhausted after his short duel with Dooku.
They are more powerful of course (unless we're talking about Zone Anakin) but that doesnt mean they have the same stamina. Sidious rarely uses his stamina anyway. Rarely even uses a lightsaber. He's more of a "Il flick my hands and cause lightning and storms" kind of guy.
Last edited by Darth Thor on Feb 17th, 2012 at 11:29 AM
High praise indeed, but before anyone leaps to take it as ironclad proof of Malgus's elite combat abilities, a rigid interpretation of that quote would require his powers and skills surpass Vitiate's own. Or you could interpret it that Malgus's specific feats have never been duplicated, but yet may have been surpassed.
Jan 24th, 2012 10:48 PM
