We're not going to invade Uganda (and before ini corrects me I mean a balls-deep invasion, not the hundred specialists we've already sent). At least I highly doubt we will. Republicans and Hawkish Dems talk about invading a place for at least a few months before it actually happens.
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The West doesn't give two-shits about Africa, just more posturing when needed. They're happy to have Africa be in a constant state of turmoil, so the goods can be more easily pillaged.
And no, Uganda won't be another Iraq, don't be a tool. Once the story has run its needed course, you won't hear a word.
Yes, the story (Which happens to take place in 2003) has recently run its course and has also recently accumulated a good amount of support all thanks to first world guilt. A little late but its never too late for justice right?
Speaking of being late, Obama has sent troops to Uganda barely 5 months ago without resulting congress. Not that he needs to! Hes obama! And "little does he know" he will soon have support thanks to this recent heart touching 30 minute video. Looks like the 70% of those donations sure paid off. But why is obama barely sending troops there if he never needed authority from congress?
“They will only be providing information, advice and assistance to partner nation forces, and they will not themselves engage LRA forces unless necessary for self-defense.”
What exactly are they going to advise by the way? Kony hasn't been spotted there in 6+ years. Kony is also expected dead by many Ugandan people themselves. Kony was at his prime in 2003. But the people want to take out the bad guy.
Coincidentally there is a recent discovery of oil earlier that year. Before Kony, the American people were already getting fed up with USA's military presence around the world, how would the US be able to manage to put some troops in Africa?
How did we get into Iraq again? WMDs that werent there? Oh look oil.
If you don't see the similarities of this foreign policy compared to iraq then you're an idiot.
Then again I already think that about most of you anyways. The lack of common sense here is insane.
- The President doesn't need Congress' go ahead to send troops anywhere. He needs Congress approval only to declare war.
- The American people are still fed up with USA's military presense around the world. The Kony video has a total of about 80 million views. There are over 400 million people in the United States alone, and the views include viewers from all over the world, not just the States. So, the reality is that the overwhelming majority of Americans probably have no idea who Joseph Kony even is.
- It took the destruction of the largest buildings in America, as well as the Pentagon, and the loss of over a hundred thousand US citizens, in order for the American people to support going in to Iraq. And that was after ten years of relative peace.
- If you think this one little video is going to incite Americans to support military action in Uganda, especially in an age where American citizens' cynicism and distrust of its own government is reaching record levels, you're insane.
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Once a person leaves a place they can never come back to it? Troops were sent to help advise the Ugandan government in building defenses in case Kony (or someone else) attacks again. Evidently the US intelligence community thinks Kony is alive, the fact that some Ugandans don't is pretty immaterial (some Brits think Paul McCartney is dead after all). Even if Kony himself is dead the LRA is definately still active, they were killing people in Uganda as recently as 2009.
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In that case, I'd say the Americans could probably spend their lives and treasure on something less complex and predictably a terrible idea than getting involved in the conflict in DRC
idk, it would be nice if we lived in a perfect world and all people like Kony could be brought to justice simply through being brought into the public eye and people agreeing he is terrible... but ya... it appears this campaign might be a little naive to say the least.
and ya, just to reiterate... god damn, wtf is wrong with America if they think they want to get involved in the conflict in DRC...
The Ugandan response is really bizarre. I get the "privileged white kids" thing but "this will make Kony famous" sounds cultural, like its better to forget about him. Bigirimana is obviously towing the party line there.
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