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Originally posted by Damborgson
What's going on lol


I have no idea, but apparently this new Ultimate Thor is taking over the Mighty Thor book, I have no idea what they're going to do with Jane in that case. Maybe it will just become a Thor Corps book or something.


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The revelation of Fury's words was about as simple as expected. Why they went out of their way to make it a secret though is...not fully understood.


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The revelation of Fury's words was about as simple as expected. Why they went out of their way to make it a secret though is...not fully understood.


What did Nick say?


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What did Nick say?


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As I mentioned before, this makes the hammer look really bad.

Thor believing that the gods do more bad than good, does not justify him losing mjolnir, because now that the hammer is sentient, it means that it felt Thor's doubt, and as a reward for the host who literally bound what remained of his odin force to repair, it leaves him.

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I knew they couldn't handle this concept well, it was forced and never made sense to begin with.


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Originally posted by abhilegend

There were only two writers Ron Marz and Jim Starlin in the whole crossover. Starlin never mentioned anything like Thor being powered down.

Yes, two writers. Like I said more than one and even more as you will soon see which goes against your claim of no other writer touching on this subject.

This idea of power sharing and Thor being weakened due to power sharing is a well established fact long before B&T.

Roy Thomas
This era had Odin bestow to Red Norvell Thor's power and Mjolnir along with it. The "power of Thor halved" w/o Mjolnir. Notice how highly Thomas regarded Thor's power. He was half of Asgard's power. stick out tongue
http://imgur.com/GIlGdbf.jpg

Ron Frenz & Tom Defalco
When Masterson was given Mjolnir, again his power is "halved".
http://imgur.com/eP7P0JG.jpg

Jim Starlin/Ron Marz
As I've said before, issues leading to B&T and all throughout the arc itself, they repeatedly touched upon the idea of power sharing.

"Part" of his power granted to Beta Ray Bill and Masterson(now Thunderstrike).
http://imgur.com/qFzx78w.jpg

Beta Ray Bill "usurp" Thor's "divine power". "Bits and pieces of my stolen self."
http://imgur.com/yNxIhyj.jpg

Thor and Bill wield the "same power" which Thor claims was "stolen" from him.
http://imgur.com/FLNRfTA.jpg

Again and again the same theme. "Usurper of my power."
http://imgur.com/NR2UPw7.jpg

At the end of B&T Odin himself admits to his folly. "I allowed others to usurp your power rightfully yours. I did REDUCE you to... BITS and PIECES."
http://imgur.com/G26NjF6.jpg


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Originally posted by abhilegend

Yes, Thor's psyche was shattered due to manipulation from Odin and he started hallucinating. BTW it was fixed when he killed Valkyrie, not that his "lost powers" were restored to him.

Thank you for bringing up this subject. In looking back, balance to his psyche was the thing restored. His power given to others was not.
Technically speaking, to this day he hasn't been operating at full capacity ever since portions of his power were given to others. Bonkers right?
laughing out loud

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Originally posted by abhilegend

What writers have shown Thor being weaker after he "gave" his power to BRB or whatever?

Already showed you multiple writers touching on the subject of power sharing. And I told you it went beyond B&T.

Roy Thomas
Again Roy comes back to Thor and continues the idea of power sharing.
Beta Ray Bill "given the power of Thor". "Use my own strength against me."
http://imgur.com/bDWezFV.jpg
http://imgur.com/Gb04yVa

Odin again has given a portion of Thor's power to Red Norvell. Now both BRB and Red "partakes of the power of Thor".
http://imgur.com/PCAQ9QH.jpg

Let's not forget Masterson. Eric's son who inherited Thunderstrike now wields his father's granted power. So for years there were 3 beings who have portions of Thor's power.

Which brings us to today. What happened when Jane take's Mjolnir. She gains the "power of Thor". What happened in the past every time Mjlonir is wielded by someone else other than Thor? His power gets halved right?

Aaron
Now is it so surprising that Thor losing Mjolnir is now in a "severely weakened state"?
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Z4bV4LRX9...37_5%2Bcopy.jpg

Or why he says "I am less than I was before".
https://static.comicvine.com/upload...6002_int2-2.jpg

Now think of the feats he's performed in this "severely weakened state".

Stalemating current Thor who has ridiculously high showings every other issue.
Like one-shotting a powerful group.
Rag-dolling a trans level character.
Creating a lightning blast that can span a solar system.
Or better yet let's get really stupid like swatting away multiple beyonders.


In the end I find this all silly.
laughing
It's what the characters do going forward. No point in wanking when I know for sure not long from now, he'll be knocked out by something much less than a mountain falling on top of him.


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Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Yes, two writers. Like I said more than one and even more as you will soon see which goes against your claim of no other writer touching on this subject.


Only Ron Marz and even then it was more of a psychological issue more than anything.

But keep making asinine claims as usual.
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This idea of power sharing and Thor being weakened due to power sharing is a well established fact long before B&T.

Roy Thomas
This era had Odin bestow to Red Norvell Thor's power and Mjolnir along with it. The "power of Thor halved" w/o Mjolnir. Notice how highly Thomas regarded Thor's power. He was half of Asgard's power. stick out tongue
http://imgur.com/GIlGdbf.jpg

Ron Frenz & Tom Defalco
When Masterson was given Mjolnir, again his power is "halved".
http://imgur.com/eP7P0JG.jpg


Uh what? His power was halved as he did not have mjolnir. Mjolnir isn't his personal power, it's powered by odinforce or vaginaforce nowadays.

Don't be dense like carver. It's not like his powers were given to someone else.
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Jim Starlin/Ron Marz
As I've said before, issues leading to B&T and all throughout the arc itself, they repeatedly touched upon the idea of power sharing.

"Part" of his power granted to Beta Ray Bill and Masterson(now Thunderstrike).
http://imgur.com/qFzx78w.jpg

Beta Ray Bill "usurp" Thor's "divine power". "Bits and pieces of my stolen self."
http://imgur.com/yNxIhyj.jpg

Thor and Bill wield the "same power" which Thor claims was "stolen" from him.
http://imgur.com/FLNRfTA.jpg

Again and again the same theme. "Usurper of my power."
http://imgur.com/NR2UPw7.jpg

At the end of B&T Odin himself admits to his folly. "I allowed others to usurp your power rightfully yours. I did REDUCE you to... BITS and PIECES."
http://imgur.com/G26NjF6.jpg


All under Ron Marz and never touched again. Guess what, Thor is cured by killing Valkyrie. He didn't get his "power" from BRB or anyone else.
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Thank you for bringing up this subject. In looking back, balance to his psyche was the thing restored. His power given to others was not.
Technically speaking, to this day he hasn't been operating at full capacity ever since portions of his power were given to others. Bonkers right?
laughing out loud



If only someone has ever said about anything that Thor is perpetually weakened. This is the same shit about Surfer being weakened after sonic shark until SS v3. It's never mentioned again and no writer wrote Thor as weakened after.
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Already showed you multiple writers touching on the subject of power sharing. And I told you it went beyond B&T.

Roy Thomas
Again Roy comes back to Thor and continues the idea of power sharing.
Beta Ray Bill "given the power of Thor". "Use my own strength against me."
http://imgur.com/bDWezFV.jpg
http://imgur.com/Gb04yVa

Odin again has given a portion of Thor's power to Red Norvell. Now both BRB and Red "partakes of the power of Thor".
http://imgur.com/PCAQ9QH.jpg

Let's not forget Masterson. Eric's son who inherited Thunderstrike now wields his father's granted power. So for years there were 3 beings who have portions of Thor's power.


And yet, Thor is never stated to be weakened anywhere.

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Which brings us to today. What happened when Jane take's Mjolnir. She gains the "power of Thor". What happened in the past every time Mjlonir is wielded by someone else other than Thor? His power gets halved right?

Aaron
Now is it so surprising that Thor losing Mjolnir is now in a "severely weakened state"?
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Z4bV4LRX9...37_5%2Bcopy.jpg


He is talking about loss of mjolnir.
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Or why he says "I am less than I was before".
https://static.comicvine.com/upload...6002_int2-2.jpg


Loss of worthiness, not loss of power.
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Now think of the feats he's performed in this "severely weakened state".

Stalemating current Thor who has ridiculously high showings every other issue.
Like one-shotting a powerful group.
Rag-dolling a trans level character.
Creating a lightning blast that can span a solar system.
Or better yet let's get really stupid like swatting away multiple beyonders.


I'm pretty sure, losing to Ulik is also there somewhere.

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In the end I find this all silly.
laughing
It's what the characters do going forward. No point in wanking when I know for sure not long from now, he'll be knocked out by something much less than a mountain falling on top of him.


You're still an idiot. If the writers established that he is more powerful than before, until the reverse is established, he is more powerful than before under that writer.

Maybe next writer won't take it into consideration but Jurgens is here for long haul and he takes power ups very seriously.

So don't get your Thor panties in a bunch.


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Originally posted by abhilegend
Only Ron Marz and even then it was more of a psychological issue more than anything.

But keep making asinine claims as usual.

Marz and Starling co-wrote the issues leading to the arc and the arc itself. Don't be an oaf. Kthnks.
Yes, psychological. And of of the main reasons is the continuous granting by Odin of Thor's power to other individuals. You are welcome to refute it, but crying and throwing a tantrum is not the way to do it.
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Originally posted by abhilegend

Uh what? His power was halved as he did not have mjolnir. Mjolnir isn't his personal power, it's powered by odinforce or vaginaforce nowadays.

Don't be dense like carver. It's not like his powers were given to someone else.

Already explained to u it was given to Red Norvell. It was done via having Thor's essence placed in his BoS and Gloves which gave RN Thor's powers. Plus losing Mjolnir to Norvell furthered his loss of power. You know. The scans u keep using of Norvell beating Thor without knowing the full story.

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Originally posted by abhilegend

All under Ron Marz and never touched again. Guess what, Thor is cured by killing Valkyrie. He didn't get his "power" from BRB or anyone else.

If only someone has ever said about anything that Thor is perpetually weakened. This is the same shit about Surfer being weakened after sonic shark until SS v3. It's never mentioned again and no writer wrote Thor as weakened after.

And yet, Thor is never stated to be weakened anywhere.

Ron Marz and Starlin. Het it right. Not sure if you're blind or have selective reading skills.

Lol. I have scans that show his power being split to others. I have scans of Odin saying he was reduced to bits and pieces. I have scans that show to this day he shares his might to other characters. I have scans of his power being halved when others wield Mjolnir(which grants them his powers). I have scans that say he's weakened. What do you have? A whole lot of bitching. Now use some brain power and think of the implications.


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Originally posted by abhilegend

He is talking about loss of mjolnir.

Loss of worthiness, not loss of power.

I'm pretty sure, losing to Ulik is also there somewhere.

Yes. Loss of Mjolnir which grants his power to someone else.

And multiple beyonders. wink

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Originally posted by abhilegend

You're still an idiot. If the writers established that he is more powerful than before, until the reverse is established, he is more powerful than before under that writer.

Maybe next writer won't take it into consideration but Jurgens is here for long haul and he takes power ups very seriously.

So don't get your Thor panties in a bunch.

Which is the whole point u numnuts.
It's clear throughout Thor's history that his power is perpetually shared by others. It's useless to dwell in the minutiae of all the power sharing, weakened state, half power, etc.. Because either way, he's going to put up ridiculous feats or get worfed in any state. Comics.

Panties in a bunch. Glad to see ure using one of my fav phrases.
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I forgot how much I loved abhi/celery sex scenes. Keep it up, guys.


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Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Marz and Starling co-wrote the issues leading to the arc and the arc itself. Don't be an oaf. Kthnks.


No, they didn't. Marz was the writer for Thor and Surfer books while Starlin wrote everything else.
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Yes, psychological. And of of the main reasons is the continuous granting by Odin of Thor's power to other individuals. You are welcome to refute it, but crying and throwing a tantrum is not the way to do it.
smile


Odin granted a portion of Thor's memories and soul to others. It never made him weaker instead the adrenaline surge made him stronger than ever.

Provide a single example of Thor stated to be weakened. Just one.
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Already explained to u it was given to Red Norvell. It was done via having Thor's essence placed in his BoS and Gloves which gave RN Thor's powers. Plus losing Mjolnir to Norvell furthered his loss of power. You know. The scans u keep using of Norvell beating Thor without knowing the full story.


Norvell wasn't given mjolnir. He was given a replica and again Thor was never stated to be weakened.

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Ron Marz and Starlin. Het it right. Not sure if you're blind or have selective reading skills.


Hey idiot, Starlin didn't mention anything about Thor being weakened either.
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Lol. I have scans that show his power being split to others. I have scans of Odin saying he was reduced to bits and pieces.


Psych wise. Not power wise. I have a letter column explaining how Thor was stronger than ever. Guess what, it actually matters unlike your twisted version of scans.
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I have scans that show to this day he shares his might to other characters. I have scans of his power being halved when others wield Mjolnir(which grants them his powers). I have scans that say he's weakened. What do you have? A whole lot of bitching. Now use some brain power and think of the implications.


Hey idiot, he is never stated to be weakened by power sharing.

Seriously this is beyond pathetic at this point.
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Yes. Loss of Mjolnir which grants his power to someone else.


At that point nobody had even lifted mjolnir idiot. How was Thor weakened without someone sharing his power? [quote l]

And multiple beyonders. wink
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I'm sure Ulik kills Beyonders now.
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Which is the whole point u numnuts.
It's clear throughout Thor's history that his power is perpetually shared by others. It's useless to dwell in the minutiae of all the power sharing, weakened state, half power, etc.. Because either way, he's going to put up ridiculous feats or get worfed in any state. Comics.


Hey idiot, Thor was never stated to be weakened like Superman was and never split in half.

But go ahead and make the thread about it. I'll be there to laugh at you.
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Panties in a bunch. Glad to see ure using one of my fav phrases.
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Oh you sad, sad Thor fanboy. This is just idiotic at this point.

If you want to argue Thor was split in half like Superman and weakened, go ahead. Something beyond idiotic like this is not worth my time.


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My guess for "War Thor" is.......








































This guy. Or better yet this creature. He was my first pick since Unworthy #5, but I might as well say it now to stake my claim.
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-l8hxT26x...600/050_018.jpg


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The obvious choices are Odin or Nick Fury sr. I've wanted Odin to get his own series for years, if it is him, it kinda sucks that he has to masquerade as Thor to get one.


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My guess for "War Thor" is.......








































This guy. Or better yet this creature. He was my first pick since Unworthy #5, but I might as well say it now to stake my claim.
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-l8hxT26x...600/050_018.jpg

Apart from how Ultimate Mjolnir didn't just obliterate Thori like it did everyone else who tried lifting it, check this out.

"A new kind of Thor. A much different breed of Thor."
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-oMLB1-Cp...s1600/86_18.jpg


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Unless Thori can turn human I don't see how that would be possible. Although, it would be pretty awesome. thumb up


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War Thor laughing out loud

Sounds like a poor man's War Hulk/WWH.


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