That's got to be one of the worst movie news writers I've ever seen. Horrible write up. Click the Movieweb link there instead. Some much better information there. It sounds like they've got both 2 & 3 ready to go soon. Exciting news, I hope it's true... (almost sounds like he wants to shoot 2 & 3 together).
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I am having a little bit of confusion, though. When Ridley says, "Prometheus 2 is written. I have already got the next two films ready to go. That will be 2014, 2015..." Does he mean the next two Prometheus films or his next two projects (perhaps Prometheus 2 and Exodus, his biblical epic)? People elsewhere seem to think he just means his next two projects, but I'm hoping not...
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What was good about it? The characters were amongst the stupidest in cinematic history, doubly insulting since they were supposed to be Earth's best scientists.
They're not nearly as stupid and annoying as the characters in Aliens, and everyone loves that film.
Well, seeing as they just finished the script a couple months ago, they'll still have a bunch of stuff to design, plan, and build. The first one wasn't exactly a simple production, so the sequel probably will not be too different. Then you have to hire actors/actresses, shooting, and then of course post production (which will undoubtedly be extensive with a production like this). A couple years from now actually sounds about right, as much as it sucks to have to wait that long. I really don't mind waiting, though, as long as shit looks tight. My only worry is that Ridley is getting pretty damn old. And I keep hearing uncertainty that he'll even return to direct. And to me, this is HIS series. I can't imagine anyone else directing it... I mean, his tone and atmosphere is what it was all about. It's the reason none of the Alien films really lived up to the first one, imo.
This. The script had a lot of potential, and typically sci fi films thrive on their atmosphere and sense of wonder or dread, not their 'smart characters'. There's a lot of amazingly stupid protagonists in many types of media, specifically because if they were as smart as some of the viewers there'd be no conflict.
Also, after looking into the film (because I had so many questions) and researching it, I appreciate what it was intended to be even if I find the finished product to have some flaws. The script got revised and content cut entirely too much, which has happened to other films in the past.
In any case, it's one of the biggest budget best representations of the ancient astronaut theory out there. The Aliens tie-in, IMO, isn't even interesting.
"The Daemon lied with every breath. It could not help itself but to deceive and dismay, to riddle and ruin. The more we conversed, the closer I drew to one singularly ineluctable fact: I would gain no wisdom here."
Man, I swear. Some people spout their hate about things just to spout hate. The first Prometheus movie was great. It wasn't perfect, but it has a 74% on rotten tomatoes for a reason. It did what it set out to do, and it did it well. Yes, those two first scientists that died were idiots, but they existed to only die. Their point was that they messed with alien tech they couldn't hope to understand (despite the fact that they're scientific geniuses, they cant be faulted for not understanding alien life forms that actually function as bio-organic weapons) and it got them killed.
The main stupid thing they did according to most was get lost in the tunnels. Even this was undestandable,because the geologist had no visual map for himself. The orbs he sent out mapped out the underground area for Prometheus. Its not like he had a hologram in his helmet telling him where to go. That leaves the guidance aspect to Prometheus, and its possible he had trouble following directions since that underground area was a massive maze and had no visual representation. And wasn't Prometheus focused on the main group at that time? If anything, they were idiots for getting separated from the main group in the first place.
Some people slam this movie just to slam it. It was a highly entertaining movie, and the second one will be too.
After watching it again (I have no idea why) it struck me how similar it is to Mission to Mars which quite frankly had a much better cast, generally better acting (with the exception of Fassbender) and was overall a far better film. Despite having a similarly open ended plot, mission to Mars at least resolved the character arcs and so didn't need a sequel and so was a stand alone story. That was always something lacking Prometheus. It NEEDS a sequel and can't stand on its own merits as a piece of storytelling.
I'm not even going to start on the whole pseudo religious clap trap thematic disaster.
I won't even mention the almost endless barrage of planet sized plot holes.
I won't even bring up how Kate Dickie gives possibly the single worst acting performance in the history of film to the point where she makes actors if pornos seem worthy of Oscars.
It did have one redeeming feature. It's one of the best uses of 3D I've seen yet.
The only saving grace is that Lindelof has supposedly been given the boot.
The only people complaining are people who wished the movie had spent unnecessary time explaining trivial things like how Fifield and Milburn got lost. (Answer: they had poor signal with the ship). Doesn't really matter how... there was enough info there for it to be plausible. Ironic, yes, but not impossible.
Good point, it's like I've been saying, it was a completely unprecedented situation. Yes, this is the other common thing I hear complained about was why Milburn was approaching the snake-like creature. Was in potentially dangerous? Yeah, I'm sure he knew that seeing as he's a biologist, but no one would have expected it to jump up and wrap around his arm. And there's also this that most people seem to conveniently ignore: he was communicating with the ship the details of the discovery. A discovery like that is pretty big news, so he was thrilled to be making it (there's a deleted scene that confirms this). And I quote his observations on the creature:
He got carried away reporting his findings. It's not stupid. It's only because we KNOW that it's a horror movie and can't end well that we think he's stupid for doing it. AND they're still operating under the assumption that they were INVITED there... the air was breathable, etc.
I like this film for NOT spending unnecessary time on trivial details because it has a larger agenda: making you think about our origins, what it means to die, Weyland's hubris is also interesting, etc. These are much loftier questions to ponder than "how should scientists behave." They should behave like people and people are unpredictable, especially in strange situations.
I honestly wouldn't expect it to directly answer many major questions. I mean, some answers on a few things would be nice, but I think it's safer to assume that we'll get more of the same, more vague hints at explanations and more mystery. Which is not necessarily a bad thing. And from what Ridley explained before, Part 2 is supposed to stray quite a bit from Alien-type mythology, then Part 3 will bring it back around somewhat to Alien. So my guess is that we'll get more information on the Engineers themselves, some mythology in that direction, their thoughts, their fears, their beliefs, their rituals, their practices. I hope. So I doubt we'll get any direct explanations for what happened in Part 1, but we'll probably get new information on the Engineers that will shed light on the events of Part 1. I for one think that will make for a very rich and entertaining series. Might actually be similar to how The Matrix sequels built upon one another, which I also am a fan of. You have to understand that Ridley is not interested in rehashing motifs from his previous films. Which is why Prometheus has a whole expanded mythology and is not merely another Alien movie.
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