Right, except one was against a berserk Darth motherfvcking Bane, one of the top 10 strongest Sith of all time and the other was against an incredibly skilled swordsman who was larger and stronger than even Bane was who was empowered by Battle Meditation. Frankly that she was able to still put up a decent fight against both (particularly Bane imo) while still half-trained is highly impressive. Revan half-way through his run would get utterly stomped by both.
Did you miss the part where I said "lightsaber fight"? None of what you just said has been confirmed to have been done with Revan's lightsaber skill.
Of course. But as of DoE I do consider her defense to be pretty close. Considering she could defend against Bane, who I rate extremely highly as a swordsman, with only being slowly pushed back I don't think there are many who can penetrate her defense.
Except darkside on the planet was sealed away. In DoE Zannah specifically says it's been "buried for centuries".
It's not said that she didn't sense the attack. That she reacted by instinct doesn't imply that. That's typically how a Jedi's danger sense is depicted as, something that triggers the sense and is instinctively reacted to.
Lol, you say that as if Kenobi didn't have superior speed and reaction feats to Revan. Since he, you know, actually has some!
And your comparison is pathetic. Obi-Wan was lifted off his feet for something like a full second and held, of course he could react to that. Zannah was hit by a sudden Force Push in the middle of talking. One is an extended grab and the other is a sudden strike. And unlike Obi-Wan, Zannah actually did react to the attack before being hit with it and blocked it partially. If Obi-Wan truly only reacted after being hit then Zannahs feat is superior.
Nope. Nothing in here was canonically done with his lightsaber. A simple interpretation for Brianna's words is "If only Father had been faster.... he wouldn't have gotten his face melted off by lightning." And Avellone could easily mean that few could face him because of his Force powers. As I recall, he did say that's what Revan specialised in.
Well obviously she can't do it while wielding her 2 meter long lightsaber in both hands, but as seen in her fights with Bane, she is easily able to disengage and put distance between her and her opponent rather easily. She couldn't do that against Sarro though since she'd backed into a corner to prevent herself from being flanked.
And no, Zannah didn't need to do jack shit. She says she'd have preferred to do that to annhilate Bane with irresistable power and she was certainly planning on doing it, but she had to rush things after Bane had stomped her. She used her spells against Set Harth just fine without any preperation and states that she can perform such attacks at a thought.
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So because Revan... jumped he's using Ataru? I guess Bane was as well when he jumped at Zannah then. Obviously you can't jump when using a different form, that's just cheating. Aaand because Revan kicks clearly he's using... whatever that is? Since kicking is specific to a single form and no other form lets you kick no really. Because he's using a Force Push, well obviously that must be Niman. And clearly attacking from below CAN ONLY BE, erm, that form. Wow, you've convinced me. So unpredictable. His ability to jump, kick, use a Force push and swing his lightsaber upwards truly will push Zannah's defense well beyond it's breaking point. My eyes have been opened. Thank you.
This is reaching even for you.
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Nope. It never states jack shit about the attack being unpredictable or random or anything like that. It is implying speed, yes, and that she had to work to repel the attack, but you're completely making shit up about the attack being ZOMG unpredictable!
Ok, conceded but this doesn't mean anything like that Bane was overpowering her defense. He was simply changing the angles he was attacking from at random intervals causing her to have to reposition her wall of defense. She was still blocking him fine and shows absolutely no strain in doing so. All Bane was achieving was pushing her back, not pressing her guard.
Yeah, Kenobi was flat out running backwards at points. There was nothing slow about his retreat.
As I said, Zannah wasn't being overpowered at all.
Uh, I don't think he was reacting consciously actually. No moreso than Bane or Zannah do. Just because he used a feint doesn't mean shit.
I don't recall anything indicating Revan was fighting non-stop for an hour. He obviously had moments to catch his breath and rejuvenate himself. And fighting hordes of fodder isn't the same as trying to break through Zannah's defense.
You haven't established jack shit about Revan being unpredictable. His incredible ability to jump and kick notwithstanding. Nothing about his lightsaber ability implies they'll any amount of effort for Zannah to defend against. And the thought of Revan getting the best of her simply via his incredible ability to use the Force. is laughable. Bane didn't even try that shit, Revan is getting nowhere against a duelist as cautious as Zannah.
And saying Revan is winning easily is frankly idiotic.
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This is some of the biggest bullshit you've ever given me. So instead of having actual feats Revan is faster..... because he's just better ok! (please log in to view the image)
Revan contending with Vitiate (who has no speed feats either! ) proves nothing. Revan's incredible command of the Force (which is bs since Zannah has all the force knowledge Revan does and more) proves nothing. Revan having no feats to his name.... proves nothing. Zannah is faster because she kept up and easily blocked attacks from a person with actual good speed feats. Deal with it.
They're not half-assed, they're short and to the point. Learn from me my child. And I feel I did a good point covering your argument by pointing out that everything you're saying is wrong and has no merit.
Your double-standards are so obvious though. In response, I can probably link a response from you saying the opposite for everything you said above. Especially confirming Vitiate.
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I've only ever claimed that Vitiate has good/decent speed and can respond fast enough not to get blitzed. He's not on Bane or Zannah's level and neither is Revan.
And Vitiate's best "feat" occurs 300 years after his fight with Revan.
I see a touched a nerve there, didn't I? Good. Everything I said in the above response is true, and I have been saying now since the creation of my Revan Respect Thread.
Many of my statements however are supported by Drew Karsphyn, someone who you despise because you love to ignore various aspects of Star Wars debating, like nexus'.
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"A touched a nerve?" Maybe you should spend the weekend studying, schoolboy. It'll be a better use of your time than publicly humiliating yourself with your flaccid reply.
For being someone who has graduated college, I would expect near-perfect grammar. In nearly every-other page you have debated in, I can assure you I can find mistakes within it.
Sometimes there are blatant mistakes such as simply forgetting a word or adding the word the same time, though I normally don't point it out because you are too much of a "high-class debater."
I rather be a lil' schoolboy then one who sits around his home all day eating Cheetos and playing Xcom. At least then I'm doing something with my life, rather then pressing numerous buttons on a controller.
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Aug 29th, 2014 10:10 PM
For being someone who has graduated college, I would expect near-perfect grammar. In nearly every-other page you have debated in, I can assure you I can find mistakes within it. 
