__________________ "Vader's pulse and breathing were machine-regulated, so they could not quicken; but something in his chest became more electric around his meetings with the Emperor; he could not say how. A feeling of fullness, of power, of dark and demon mastery -- of secret lusts, unrestrained passion, wild submission -- all these things were in Vader's heart as he neared his Emperor. These things and more."
Im blind because its a nonsensical vague quote that doesnt substitute for her lack of dueling/skill feats. So what if she is "violent" that doesnt mean she is a good duelist
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Your hopeless. That quote isn't saying she is violent, it is saying she is intimate with her fighting skills, more so than even sith who eat sleep and breath killing and death
Im guessing you cant comprehend that a stupid quote isnt the same as showings/feats of her dueling ability. So what she is "intimate" with her fighting skill, how does that make any difference in a fight with Dooku who has crushed powerful duelists like Kenobi and Bulq with ease
__________________ "Happiness is a lie. Life is horror. The light is always dying all across the universe. The last star will flicker out someday, when it does, all that remains is shadow. And I will be its king!"'-Amahl Farouk
Registered: Mar 2014
Location: The Misty Mountains
Neither of those to has he had any ease with defeating. Dooku is better than Satele that isn't in question but he isn't going to have as easy a time as hr did with Aotc Kenobi and Satele is the more powerful force wielder so Dooku is the one that needs to be careful in that area
So says the guy that defended Saesee tiin's dueling prowess with a single quote and only wanks Saesee Tiin's sparring match with Windu - despite it Barely being a feat
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First off Dooku's lightning means nothing in this battle, Satele can palm lightsabers his lightning got nothing in her.
In TK Satele has gestured droids that are tougher than durrasteel into balls, shattered a blast door, toppled a tree, and launched three sith in the air with one move. What has Dooku done to top that?
I'm not sure why this mentality is so commonly adopted when concerning lightning. Not just in this case, but in general. Yes, lightsabers (or tutaminis) can counter lightning--But the case is the same for lightsabers as well. Just as a well placed strike can get past the defenses of an opposing duelist, lightning is also a valid tool against which there is no absolute defense. That said, the chances of Satele being overcome by it are low.
Not bad at all, but not as impressive as you're trying to make out, either. I personally find Dooku casually lifting over a dozen stone obelisks simultaneously more impressive. I mean, Obi-Wan's capable of bending re-enforced durasteel plates like a cheap spoon with his bare hands, but there's no way in hell he could bench-press one of those things.
Honestly this isn't all that impressive. For one thing the door was like 6 feet high, and only a few inches thick--Take a look at the doors the Barsen'thor busted up. Also, I had previously gathered that this was more of a display of Satele's ability to use shatterpoint than anything else.
Ventress could do that. Dooku TK raped Ventress with a finger.
Oh spare me, everyone and their grandma can do that.
More like, four. All of which being more relevant than the one you're spamming for Satele.
Regardless, what does the number of quotes have to do with anything? Saesee Tiin is one of the most skilled lightsaber duelists in the order, and one of the best Jedi it's ever produced. It is stated in the text. Just because you like to stick your fingers in your ears and ignore it doesn't make it any less of a fact.
EDIT: More than that, I have no idea why you're so strongly inclined to bring up Tiin whenever possible despite him being irrelevant to the thread. Are you really that butthurt?
Last edited by NewGuy01 on Nov 15th, 2014 at 03:49 AM
I haven't spammed any quotes for Satele what-so-ever....
And Satele has a quote calling her a beacon for the republic and one of the most powerful Jedi at that...
What's your point? I don't ignore the text, i simply state that it holds no merit when we analyse Tiins prowess - much like when we analyse Cin Dralligs prowess.
Just Because Dooku praised him, doesn't mean he[Drallig] is in the same league as the others Dooku mentioned
You know, i find it funny, how. You defend Tiin in ever single thread he's in(Against Krayt, Revan etc) But despite us having a Mutual agreement to engage in a debate, You have not even responded. How about instead of calling me "butthurt" you actually engage in our debate.
Instead of harping on technicalities, you should really stick to the point. Your post was specifically addressing Carthage's response to the quote. Whether or not it is you or Bantha posting it matters little to me.
...So? I've never denied this.
Do you listen to yourself?
As well as threads he's not in, apparently.
I asked you to make the thread and you have yet to. That is not my problem.
Last edited by NewGuy01 on Nov 15th, 2014 at 04:53 AM
LOL that makes no sense, how can you accusing me of doing something I didn't even do and then just say "Yeah you said X thing" *Gets corrected* "But it doesn't matter what who said it because ...?" flawless logic right there
It "holds no merit" due to him having nothing to support his prowess - I've stated this many times before, what you quoted was a simple mistake on my part.
Only because you choose to be offended that the idea that Saesee is not all that impressive, I stated that, with the intention of pointing out Carthage's hypocrisy.
Shit, I misread the text from that thread as:
"So I'll post the topic i guess, I'll make an opening argument tomorrow, since you're so reluctant to do so"
What doesn't? Who is posting the quote is irrelevant to my point, I don't care.
I don't see how it's a mistake. You are clearly saying that statements from the text do not count for some characters, but they do for others. Because you "stated it" so.
Were I to say the same of someone like Jaden Korr, you would surely be provoked to revoke it, would you not? The only difference is that I don't even like Saesee Tiin, so having to constantly refute this nonsense is really tiresome for me. Please believe that.
And, to quote carthage, let's please stop derailing the thread. Seriously, the page is going to end and the previous discussion is going to be snuffed out.
Last edited by NewGuy01 on Nov 15th, 2014 at 05:16 AM
Then don't come at me with inaccurate accusations kiddo.
I wasn't stating "Oh satele's accolade holds merit because I say so, but Saesee tiin does because i hate him crying face" I was arguing that she also has an accolade like Tiins - perhaps even more impressive(though that is left up in the air for debate - the impressiveness of the accolade i mean.)
I hardly give a damn for anything regarding trolls trying to low ball Jaden just to get at me kiddo, Carthage tried that and failed. And if you don't like to respond, then don't simple as that broski.
I never once brought up Saesee's feat in the debate I humiliated you in in your crap team vs. B team. I know you're butthurt that Tiin is considered one of the best in the order, but I never once brought up that moment in that entire discussion you chickened out of.
__________________ "Happiness is a lie. Life is horror. The light is always dying all across the universe. The last star will flicker out someday, when it does, all that remains is shadow. And I will be its king!"'-Amahl Farouk
Nov 15th, 2014 12:30 AM
