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leonidas
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KMC Secret Wars! Eyes Only--You Know Who You Are...

so, in the wake of the good times generated by the ONE POWER thread, a BZ suggestion has morphed into.....something more. some bizzarro BZ/tourney amalgamation. basically, this is an elitist/ultra-secret/classified mini tournament thingy.

nah.....laughing out loud

really, it's a little friendly competition between e-friends. there are 4 contestants: me, digi, smurph and scoob. we're going to be having a little mini-tournament between ourselves (smurph and i and digi and i have had a few bz's over the last couple years, so this is just a way to get us all together in one venue, and since scoob has reappeared from the darkness, we figured we'd let him into the group too. smile

full on tourneys are tough for loads of reasons nowadays, so i thought 4 people would be easier to pull off and maybe the format would be catchy. here is where we'll hash out details and get things set to go.

i will be looking for judges of course and i have a few in mind i'll be pm'ing, but if you KNOW you can read some matches, and you KNOW you can get a vote in within a 7 day timeframe, feel free to toss your name into the thread and let me know. judges have been the downfall of more than one tournament and bz, so i need competent, willing judges who will absolutely NOT bail on the committment. people put too much into competing in these things to get jerked around by judges who bail, so please, we need some good, impartial judges, but we REALLY need reliable people interested in reading what will no doubt be some entertaining as sh!t matches. laughing out loud

digi and i figure the winner can safely declare himself king of the internet or something equally modest, can rightfully claim all of cyberspace as their domain. so, no pressure. big grin

anyway, that's it. digi, smurph, scoob, let's have at it and have some fun.


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Charlotte DeBel
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I'm going to judge this clash of titans.


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things to hash out:

(1) level--maybe amalgamate high meta/low herald? i'm open to whatever though.

(2) format? single semi-final then final, or round robin? leads to one extra match, so i'm good for whatever. if a semi final and final, how do we randomly draw?

(3) post limit? 5-7 maybe?

(4) draft or declare? i think declaring would be fine. even if we grab the same ability by some chance, the second power is extremely unlikely to be the same.

(5) banned powers? same as any tourney i figure--rules as tourney rules?

(6) are we giving OURSELVES the powers (ala one power thread), or drafting the actual characters (ala any OTHER bz/tourney style)?

(7) amalgamation format? body/mind? just any 2 powersets, complete?

i'm sure you all have some things i missed so feel free to add in anything that needs working out. shouldn't be hard to come to a consensus. we all want fun matches so that should be the priority.


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leonidas
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quote: (post)
Originally posted by Charlotte DeBel
I'm going to judge this clash of titans.


you were on my pm list. laughing out loud thanks for be willing to follow this thing. hope its fun.


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I can judge if you want.


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And a strict upper cap for power level should be on place IMO.


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leonidas
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thumb up

yeah, we're not going to be busting universes. natural powers, no enhancing beyond, say, mid herald? unless the others have something different. we're not going to make this into an arms race though--that is not the intent of this. focus will be on ideas and debating--as it always should be imo.


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So you want me to judge or not?


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leonidas
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absolutely. thumb up unless you've suitably po'd any of the others you should be great as a judge. but, who can keep track with you. laughing out loud

stick out tongue


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quote: (post)
Originally posted by leonidas
absolutely. thumb up unless you've suitably po'd any of the others you should be great as a judge. but, who can keep track with you. laughing out loud

stick out tongue

Lol yeah, I will judge it then.


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Welcome to the judges! I'll remind you only once that I remain a mod with ban-requesting privileges. happy

My suggestions:

(1) level--maybe amalgamate high meta/low herald?
I know more about high meta than any two other tiers combined, but I've also done a LOT of debating at that level and just did that tourney that stalled in the finals at high meta.

I wouldn't be opposed to mid herald, but with fairly restrictive rules limiting prep and power enhancing and such. I mean, have we ever actually done a mid herald tourney?

Mid meta would also be...different. But it's such a hard tier to pin down.

(2) format? single semi-final then final, or round robin? leads to one extra match, so i'm good for whatever. if a semi final and final, how do we randomly draw?

Semi-final and final. None of this round robin nonsense.

(3) post limit? 5-7 maybe?

I'm always going to vote for the lower end. So 5 is my vote.

(4) draft or declare? i think declaring would be fine. even if we grab the same ability by some chance, the second power is extremely unlikely to be the same.

Yeah, there's few enough of us that I'm alright with this. Or we could do the always-fun "PM to a third party and just announce picks in a thread, but not who has which person until all drafts are over." That format always cracked me up.

(5) banned powers? same as any tourney i figure--rules as tourney rules?

Things I suggest we ban: Speed Force, Power Copying, Duplication (Smurph! stick out tongue ), no autonomous constructs, time manipulation, offensive matter manipulation, and we may have to think hard about the limits of tech creation as well (cap its power at whatever the tier is maybe?)

(6) are we giving OURSELVES the powers (ala one power thread), or drafting the actual characters (ala any OTHER bz/tourney style)?

I think drafting actual characters.

(7) amalgamation format? body/mind? just any 2 powersets, complete?

To avoid confusion, I say we draft entire characters and/or entire power sets. I'm cool with 2 though.

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But really, I'm probably ok with whatever. Give me someone to punch.


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I'll judge, if its an abstract level and above fight. Yes.


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Originally posted by Digi
I mean, have we ever actually done a mid herald tourney?
Redatom/Newjak's tourney was Wonder Woman cap, I think.

Also the Mid Herald battlezone belt.

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leonidas
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Originally posted by Digi
Welcome to the judges! I'll remind you only once that I remain a mod with ban-requesting privileges. happy

My suggestions:

(1) level--maybe amalgamate high meta/low herald?
I know more about high meta than any two other tiers combined, but I've also done a LOT of debating at that level and just did that tourney that stalled in the finals at high meta.

I wouldn't be opposed to mid herald, but with fairly restrictive rules limiting prep and power enhancing and such. I mean, have we ever actually done a mid herald tourney?

Mid meta would also be...different. But it's such a hard tier to pin down.

(2) format? single semi-final then final, or round robin? leads to one extra match, so i'm good for whatever. if a semi final and final, how do we randomly draw?

Semi-final and final. None of this round robin nonsense.

(3) post limit? 5-7 maybe?

I'm always going to vote for the lower end. So 5 is my vote.

(4) draft or declare? i think declaring would be fine. even if we grab the same ability by some chance, the second power is extremely unlikely to be the same.

Yeah, there's few enough of us that I'm alright with this. Or we could do the always-fun "PM to a third party and just announce picks in a thread, but not who has which person until all drafts are over." That format always cracked me up.

(5) banned powers? same as any tourney i figure--rules as tourney rules?

Things I suggest we ban: Speed Force, Power Copying, Duplication (Smurph! stick out tongue ), no autonomous constructs, time manipulation, offensive matter manipulation, and we may have to think hard about the limits of tech creation as well (cap its power at whatever the tier is maybe?)

(6) are we giving OURSELVES the powers (ala one power thread), or drafting the actual characters (ala any OTHER bz/tourney style)?

I think drafting actual characters.

(7) amalgamation format? body/mind? just any 2 powersets, complete?

To avoid confusion, I say we draft entire characters and/or entire power sets. I'm cool with 2 though.

...

But really, I'm probably ok with whatever. Give me someone to punch.


that's all fine by me. thumb up

smurph didn't seem to raise any objections. we'll wait on scoob. you know he'll find SOMETHING to b!tch about.

i think we def need to deal with the amping/tech creation as well. i'm good with saying any tech is fine so long as it doesn't exceed the low herald limit, if that's what we want to stay with. i think high meta/low herald combo works well, but if y'all want mid herald that's fine with me. scoob, smurph? thoughts?


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Originally posted by leonidas
we'll wait on scoob. you know he'll find SOMETHING to b!tch about.




If we're amalgamating characters I'd prefer to keep the original cap lower, you all know how crazy powerful even iron man level guys can get with the right blend.


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leonidas
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that's fine by me. i don't want to make this an arm's race like i said before. i thought of amalgamating characters but the amalgamations can't lead to natural amping. no drafting a mutant then drafting cortez's powers with him as an easy example. more like abomination and quicksilver style composites if you get what i'm saying. if everyone wants low/high meta combo's i'm fine with that too. just smurph and i had talked about low herald is all. smurph, thoughts?

btw--this superbowl is sucking a$$....


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Actually, I like the no amping idea, maybe too much of that in the past.

Adding, not multiplying


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quote: (post)
Originally posted by Digi
(5) banned powers? same as any tourney i figure--rules as tourney rules?

Things I suggest we ban: Speed Force, Power Copying, Duplication (Smurph! stick out tongue ), no autonomous constructs, time manipulation, offensive matter manipulation, and we may have to think hard about the limits of tech creation as well (cap its power at whatever the tier is maybe?)



Depending on the tier, we'll want to set a 'killabillity' limit too, and maybe rule out mindrape? Though I'm a personal fan of more options, not less.

Other things I'm a fan of:

-Picking a character cap instead of a tier cap. Saying 'must be equal or lesser in power than <blank>', because picking somebody that's above high meta but not the upper cap of low herald might make certain characters more viable than they have been in previous tournaments. (high meta and low herald are examples, I'd be fine with a mid/high meta blend too)

-Semi-Finals and Finals format.

-Making it really, really clear what counts as 'natural amping'. Fabian Cortez is an obvious example, but what about, say, Supergirl and the Ray?

-Amalgamations. I think making up a new character is fun. smile

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Originally posted by Digi
Welcome to the judges! I'll remind you only once that I remain a mod with ban-requesting privileges. happy



Like that's gonna scare me.


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-Amalgamations. I think making up a new character is fun. smile


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