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XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
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How was the Wrath weakened?

Clearly was responding to Freshest, tbh.

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Way off.

Interdasking. What does he mean by this then:

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Beating a superior version of Revan doesn't mean he's above Revan. Just ask Drew.

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SOR. Because Foundry Revan is probably the weakest incarnation of Revan there is.

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In which it literally states wrath can't take him alone, the context of the fight Proves it.

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Oh; you meant KotOR Revan was far more powerful than Kun while weakened.

[I know; you really meant Foundry Revan, but he was hurling fvcking asteroids]

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SOR. Because Foundry Revan is probably the weakest incarnation of Revan there is.

But Wrath had copious backup, and that was just one half of Revan's essence, while the other (apparently) helped empower the team.

So yeah, not sure why Fresh would bring up SOR.

What do you have to say for yourself, 'slice?

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At insane speeds as well^

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Even in the foundry, he still had a strike team.

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Even in the foundry, he still had a strike team.

It's soloable, as with Malgus.

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But Wrath had copious backup, and that was just one half of Revan's essence, while the other (apparently) helped empower the team.

So yeah, not sure why Fresh would bring up SOR.

What do you have to say for yourself, 'slice?

Uhh, The Wrath had backup on the Foundry as well, so that’s not factoring into Freshest’s equation.

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It's soloable, as with Malgus.

Pretty sure that's just game mechanics. was sure you needed a strike team to do it.

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It's soloable, as with Malgus.

Sure, but there’s specific quotes that talk about how flashpoints are strike team missions. That they’re solo-able by antisocial edgelords doesn’t necessarily mean much.

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Uhh, The Wrath had backup on the Foundry as well, so that’s not factoring into Freshest’s equation.

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Pretty sure that's just game mechanics. was sure you needed a strike team to do it.

I was under the impression that the possibility of soloing the content meant this was possible for the protagonists in practice?

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Sure, but there’s specific quotes that talk about how flashpoints are strike team missions. That they’re solo-able by antisocial edgelords doesn’t necessarily mean much.

I see. Is there any confirmation one way or another?

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It's classified as a flashpoint, which is mean't for team gameplay, much like a heroic 4, but with it's own instance.

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Best you’ll get are quotes saying flashpoints are group missions. Pretty sure one quote regarding the Malgus FP explicitly talks about gathering a team to do th flashpoint.

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http://www.swtor.com/holonet/flashpoints

This pretty much covers it's intent for Team gameplay.

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http://www.swtor.com/holonet/group-missions

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Some threats around the galaxy are too dangerous for even the most seasoned warrior to take on alone. Throughout your journey, you will come across requests to join with others and take on story-driven missions designed to challenge groups of from four to sixteen players.

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It's definitely a group mission, but that doesn't preclude the possibility of soloing it either, which appears to become possible at a high enough level. I don't think "Some threats around the galaxy are too dangerous for even the most seasoned warrior to take on alone." is really binding. It seems to be talking about gameplay, since these are challenges for groups of players. That doesn't mean Malgus is necessarily > HoT, etc, and that they made it solo-able seems telling.

Another example I'd draw is Mace Windu forming strike teams on two different occasions to deal with Maul. Is a team consisting of four Jedi masters, a padawan and a group of clone troopers required to kill Maul and Opress? No, but that's the team that was sent.

There's also the fact that Malgus has military resources, IIRC, that need to be destroyed before facing him, so in that case sending a group would make a lot of sense. That doesn't preclude one Jedi defeating Malgus.

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