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Yeah, agreed on that one. Speaking of Arrow, I really hope they're finally moving away from the Olicity crap, but even if they do, I can't help but feel like Flash will just replace it with more Iris stuff. I mean, the last season was basically all about her.


I used to like Felicity, but then she had that whole thing where she dumped Oliver for lying to her about his kid.

On the surface, that is definitely a breakup worthy offense. However, either in the very same episode or in the previous episode she had lectured her mother about Detective Lance keeping secrets for her own good. But Oliver lies about her kid, and suddenly that goes away? Despite the fact he did it because he was told if he didn't he would not be allowed to see his kid.

Also IMO one thing problematic when you have a hero who has an established love interest in the comics it makes it hard to take any relationship in the series that isn't with that character serious. In Smallville it was hard to care about Clark and Lana because you knew they wouldn't end up together, especially once they brought Lois on the show, suddenly every single relationship both characters had that wasn't with each other was doomed to fail. I guess in Arrow it helps that Black Canary died. Though I haven't kept up with the show so she could have come back.

It was present in Flash too. Nobody cares about your relationship with Eddie, Iris. Nobody.


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Felicity thinking she should've had some rights to Oliver's child, a child that wasn't even hers to begin with, is a kind of entitlement that makes one's blood boil.

As for Iris, the problem was she didn't really do that much of anything (that was useful to the heroes/team), and then the show tried to make her look more important by having some prophesied fate in store for her. But yeah, as pointed out, these relationships shouldn't be taken too seriously. Still, would've been nice for Oliver's canon shipping with Canary to have happened, but eh, can't always have nice things.


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Felicity thinking she should've had some rights to Oliver's child, a child that wasn't even hers to begin with, is a kind of entitlement that makes one's blood boil.

As for Iris, the problem was she didn't really do that much of anything (that was useful to the heroes/team), and then the show tried to make her look more important by having some prophesied fate in store for her. But yeah, as pointed out, these relationships shouldn't be taken too seriously. Still, would've been nice for Oliver's canon shipping with Canary to have happened, but eh, can't always have nice things.


Iris seems like her only purpose is to get put in danger and to have sex with Barry Allen.

They try to give her this Lois Lane type reporter thing(I know she is also a reporter in comics) but it just seems like filler.

At this point I can't even figure out why villains try to get their villainy on in Central City. Why? Is there a forcefield preventing them from leaving town? Why choose to get your crime on in the city protected by multiple speedsters? The JLA doesn't exist yet so heroes aren't necessarily patrolling the entire world.

If I got super powers and wanted to be a villain and I lived in Central City I would immediately be on the first bus out of there. I'd be on the other side of the country. I'd be showing up in small towns in Montana robbing banks and stuff. Nobody gives a shit about Montana. What superheroes patrol there? Wyoming is also just ripe for the taking.


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You never ever see in comics some headline like "JLA defeats Legion of Doom in Wyoming!".

Utah is probably wide open too. North and South Dakota? Nobody gives a shit, just stay away from Mt. Rushmore and you'll be fine.


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Grodd Is being a bad ape and apparently is trying to start WWIII in Vietnam


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So, LoT is continuing with the trend of recycling other CW villains? Not that I mind too much. I liked RF, Merlyn and Darhk, and I like Grodd too.


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I suppose it's in keeping with how the show begins, these people have no place in history, (that's why they're there in the first place.) so them running around taking out baddies who are more well known for being PWND by other heroes actually makes a kind of sense. They turn up, save the day, then leave and no-one has any clue who they are.


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What the hell happened with Legends?

New writer? The season opener was awful. Half baked social commentary, Men in Black groaners, Rip way ooc, forced drama for drama's sake....


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So apparently Jefferson and Stein have to do a joining session at least once a week. What happens when Stein dies? I do not even mean if he dies in some battle, he is several decades older than Jefferson and will die of old age long before Jefferson does.


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season premiere was junk...

also Victor Garber might be leaving..



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So apparently Jefferson and Stein have to do a joining session at least once a week. What happens when Stein dies? I do not even mean if he dies in some battle, he is several decades older than Jefferson and will die of old age long before Jefferson does.


Then Ronnie fills in, probably.

I forget, what happened to Ronald Raymond?


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Then Ronnie fills in, probably.

I forget, what happened to Ronald Raymond?


Lol he died.


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What a fun episode. Hope it keeps this tempo.


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At least it didn't have Supergirls political soapboxing. wink


I get what Legends was going for, with a lighter tone. The Men in Black theme was no accident. Thing is, the tone shift is so radical from not only itself, but the entire Arrowverse..

But some of those jokes.. Like Ray Palmer acting like low man in a startup. Imagine if Steve Jobs joined a startup. Not founded, just hopped on board with sweat equity and everything. That's not funny, it's confusing.

Isn't Ray still rich? And famous enough to get venture capital easy? Being a founder, THAT could be funny.


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Yeah that was puzzling, Ray IS rich. It also makes NO SENSE that the guy he worked for wasn't interested in the whole "shrinking organic tech" Ray pitched to him. Wtf? That would make you way more money than some dating app. How come nobody has tried to use his technology to help end hunger or anything like that? If you can shrink something then you should be able to make something larger as well.

I haven't been keeping up with Arrow, how the hell did Felicity f*ck up Ray's company?


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I haven't been keeping up with Arrow, how the hell did Felicity f*ck up Ray's company?


While a couple of events in the show certainly did not make things easy, it basically came down to neglect. She kept priotising helping Green Arrow fight bad guys, instead of running the company.

Also, looks like Constantine will make an appearance at some point this season as well. From what I can tell, it will be in episode 10, which will apparently also see Darhk returning.


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Loved the episode, show seems much more polished to me as well.


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Hmmm... That is one thing I kind of noticed. Some visual effects, like the Steel transformation, Firestorm chucking fireballs etc. looked better than last season.

Rory's heat gun really has been nerfed to all hell at this point though.


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So has Steel himself. Regular people are knocking him around if not hurting him. And he has to be holding back to maybe 2% of his strength if he's barely knocking them out and hitting them what seems to be no harder than Sara.

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