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Plagueis vs. Revan
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Originally posted by Lord Stark
es its generally agreed that Plagueis>TPM Sidious. Also Luceno never outright says Plagueis>Sidious only that it'd be a toss up.

Whether we consider Sidious as of TPM or ROTS, it makes no difference. Sidious is officially implied to have further grown in power during DE era.

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Uh no... Not true at all.


Why not?


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Yeah, I really doubt the author has no say whatsoever on what goes in the back of the book.


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Why not?


Are you serious?

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Yeah, I really doubt the author has no say whatsoever on what goes in the back of the book.


I think that the blurbs should be taken with some weight. Obviously a contradiction of the novel itself would be enough to call it into question, but the writer's own comments kind of change that. Afterall the fact that Plagueis and Sidious could solo the Jedi Council is ridonculous.


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Are you serious?


I'm afraid I am.

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I doubt the author has no say on what's on the back of the book. Luceno's thoughts on Sidious vs. Plagueis confirm this.


Karpyshan said theres no say, and since he is an author who's written 4 SW novels.....


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Karpyshan said theres no say, and since he is an author who's written 4 SW novels.....



When did he say that?


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When did he say that?


Where else? In one of Ants stalker e-mails.


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I'm afraid I am.


Then your logic is completely flawed. It's a non-sequitur. The conclusion does not follow the premise.

Just because he wasn't called the most powerful Sith in the novel, does no mean he isn't. That simple really.

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Where else? In one of Ants stalker e-mails.

They aren't really "stalker" emails, but yeah. thumb up


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Then your logic is completely flawed. It's a non-sequitur. The conclusion does not follow the premise.

Just because he wasn't called the most powerful Sith in the novel, does no mean he isn't. That simple really.


LOL then I guess you misunderstood what I said. I meant that if the blurb was actually true, it would've been backed by the novel itself. This isnt a logic I'd apply in different occasions.

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And that too is a non-sequitur.

Don't get me wrong though, blurbs are obviously hyperbolic/non-canon and I don't believe Plags is the most powerful Sith ever.

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Didn't Bane also get a "most powerful eVAR" blurb?


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Well, that's that then. Still, Plagueis is extremely skilled with a lightsaber and extremely powerful with the Force. Although it's safe to assume Revan is also amazingly skilled with a lightsaber, he doesn't have saberfeats, only all-out. It could go either way, but I'm not willing to lean towards anyone in a Plagueis versus (unless it's obvious) until I read the novel again.


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Didn't Bane also get a "most powerful eVAR" blurb?


"If the dark side's most powerful master can capture the ultimate secret, the Sith will never die—and neither will Darth Bane."



That sounds awfully familiar doesn't it...

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laughing out loud

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And that too is a non-sequitur.



Really? A very important detail that sounds super hyperbolic is being mentioned in the blurbs but never in the novel even though Plagueis is compared to the sith before him in many occasions in the book. I don't think I'm being illogical to expect the novel to confirm what is said in the back of it for me to take it seriously.

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Don't get me wrong though, blurbs are obviously hyperbolic/non-canon and I don't believe Plags is the most powerful Sith ever.


Yeah

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Plagueis is extremely skilled with a lightsaber

lol


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"If the dark side's most powerful master can capture the ultimate secret, the Sith will never die—and neither will Darth Bane."



That sounds awfully familiar doesn't it...



laughing out loud


THE RULE OF BANE IS REAL!

Does Plagueis ever clench his hands??? I rest my case.


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Reading interviews by James Luceno on Plagueis. This is my favorite:

"I was wondering about Yoda's line in ROTJ on not dying--"Strong am I with the force, but not that strong." Was Plagueis' ability to restore life in the novel based on his strength in the force, or his willingness to explore the "unnatural" (or a bit of both)?"

"Sidney, I believe that Plagueis's strength was based on his willingness to go as far as he needed to ..."

laughing laughing laughing laughing laughing laughing


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