He's been controlled, like the majority of characters in comics.
Heck, one of his funnest enemies is named Mr. Mind!
Shouldnt really be an issue here, as Ikaris' powers are listed as low level psychic abilities, enabling him to scan the superficial thoughts of any mind less adept than his own, mentally create illusions to disguise himself, psionically manipulate atoms and molecules so as to transform an object's shape, and rearrange molecules to form shields.
He's not going to mind control CM.
I already said he's been mind controlled. (Why) do you need me to keep saying it?
Quite famously in Kingdom Come, which i find it hard to believe you havent read or at least have familiarity with. If you (actually) havent read it you should.
As for those feats you posted, both are cool, but neither was in a combat situation, as these forum fights are. They also start at a fair distance, and willing to wager on the stronger faster character not just standing around.
I also dont see the scans as putting Ikaris on a TP level with Mr. Mind, The Gray Man, Johnny Sorrow/Despero and The 7 Deadly sins, all of which have controlled CM (and others simultaneously).
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I'm not asking you for a list of people who've controlled him. I know he's been controlled. I'm asking if he's ever actually resisted an attempt, which is a very different thing. That so many people have succeeded actually suggests that this is a viable tactic for Ikaris. If Cap has never actively resisted mind control, then this becomes Ikaris' fight to lose. Yes, those examples are not a combat setting, but neither seemed to cause him much strain. It's entirely possible that he could pull it off, especially if Cap is as vulnerable to mind control as any average human.
He's resisted all those mind control instances i listed. He wound up getting almost KOd by J'onn J'onzz in the case of The Gray Man, and sacrificed himself in KC. And again, i'm not putting Ikaris on the level of those characters based on those scans.
This is going to come down to a fight (imo), and CM will win it after a good go-round.
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Was the resistance successful? I've read most of those showings, and IIRC it was an outside source that finally allowed him to shake it off. As it currently stands, I've seen no feats to suggest Cap has enough TP resistance to repel even a minor assault on his own, which means Ikaris should be fully capable of controlling him.
Agee to disagree, however. If you think Cap wins, that's cool. I even said I believe it would be a split. Should someone have proof that Cap is capable of repelling mental attacks on his own, however, that would obviously change.
Again, this fight isnt going to be decided by mind control. CM has faced, been controlled by, and resisted better.
Below is a better scan of the Gray Man feat, not so much for you at this point, but because i spent time searching for it so i want to use it.
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