Yeah, Alex Ross, the biggest fanboy of Captain Marvel.
What he says is irrelevant. Captain Marvel never looked stronger than Superman in Kingdom Come which was written by Mark Waid. Not to mention, it's an alternate reality.
Alex Ross' opinion is as much valid as a writer saying Iron Man is invincible because he is "Invincible."
What's that has to do with anything? Superman has casually matched speed of mercury when Captain Marvel Jr had been given full access to it and it had been amped a million fold.
Cap has outright Bern stated as slower than Superman in Superman/Shazam : First Thunder.
Flash was restricted to Mach 1 in that era. You might as well compare Cap to classic Quicksilver.
So why didn't that became a fact? Why is it that Superman has always looked better than Cap post crisis to the point that Eclipsed Superman nearly beat Cap to death in their only conclusive fight?
Why is Superman able to restrain Blaze while weakened when under the same writer Ordway, Blaze choked out Black Adam with one hand?
Or Superman while holding back able to stalemate Adam when he is explicitly stated to be stronger and more powerful than Captain Marvel in the very same issue?
Yeah and an editor's opinion is somehow valid, right?
Superman has been stated to be the most powerful being on Earth nearly 30 times in post crisis history by 30 different writers. Would you like me to post all that and compare that to Cap's history?
But an editor says it and somehow its the truth now, eh?
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Last edited by abhilegend on May 30th, 2016 at 01:22 PM
Come on bro indeed.
Its not so much abhi being a fanboy thats so funny (though it is), its when he discounts others (in this case Alex Ross) for being fanboys.
He has to know how ridiculous he comes off. He has to. The compulsions at work in his posting are fascinating.
Still doesn't change the fact that he is a writer and works for DC.
What he says is relevant, as he is the writer, and his words hold much more power than mine or yours. Actually he did look stronger than Supes in KC, Supes even said that Marvel was the mightiest of them all. Also the only reference of KC Alex said was in my 2 scan, in 1 scans he said nothing about KC.
Bad compariing. It is kinda obvious that it is hyperbole, as for CM being strongest is different.
Maybe you should also know the context, the context is that their power was flucating, and it is CMJ, who is nowhere near as fast CM, and on top of that Mary Marvel and CM were also powered, so he only had a small portion of Speed of Mercury, and on top of that the magic on Earth was flucating so they were less powerful, that is an irrelevant showing, and i can give you words of Mark Waid himself saying that Cap is around Flash when it comes to speed, i can even show you feats of Cap flying so fast, that he time travels, and even travels so fast that enters the 5th dimension(the time is 4th dimension.
More fanfictions, please. It was never stated.
I agree on that part, but even after WotG, Cap has also became faster, he has time traveled via pure speed(which only Flashes so far have shown), and has even entered 5th dimension, and the writers like Jerry and Mark already said that Cap is around Flash when it comes to pure speed.
Because Superman is more popular, also Cap wasn't even trying to fight against Superman, and Eclipso Supes and Cap had rematch, and Supes couldn't beat him just barely stalemate, and Cap was still holding back. Also i can also give you showings were Cap dominates Supes, they had many fights.
Ever heard of PIS? Blaze is Hell-Lord Level being like Mephisto she would trash Supes anyday of week, and her powers are magic which makes it even worse, it was good old plain PIS. Also in the same fight Captain Marvel while having broken hand and small fraction of his power was beating BA, and also BA shruged of that choke later. Also years later, when Blaze stole Satanus' and Neron's power(both are reality warpers), and got the power of the ruler of Hell(as she became the ruler of Hell a.k.a Domina), she got her ass kicked handily by Freddy Freeman, who was the Captain Marvel at that time.
More fanfictions, please, you should reread the issue, Superman doesn't hold back, he himself literally said that against somone like BA he doesn't hold back, also it was Adam who was holding back, and he wasn't even trying to fight back. He was simply trying to say that Supes is under mindcontrol, also it was never stated that BA is stronger than Marvel, both of them are stronger than Supes, but unlike BA, Marvel holds back a lot.
Yep, because they are basically the top dogs in DC.
He maybe have been stated in comics, but not by writers or editors, also MMH is more powerful than Supes. Also if we go by statements in comics, Cap was stated be omnipotent more than once, was stated be unstoppable, was stated to be all-powerful and etc... Also Wonder Woman was stated to be second to Supes, yet i can name you a dozen Earth based characters stronger than her, and Supes was never more powerful than Marvel, it is actually otherwise, also Jerry Ordway has said that DC would never allow them to have a "real" fight between Marvel and Supes.
Editors are in top hierarchy in comics industry their words are above the words of the writers, just because you don't like it doesn't mean it is wrong, just deal with it. There are many characters more powerful than Superman.
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Last edited by MaZeRaIII on May 30th, 2016 at 02:28 PM
Incorrect, he is an artist and has never written anything for DC other than alternate reality comic Justice.
Of course it doesn't. He is an artist. Not a writer.
No, he didn't. Yes, "world's mightiest mortal" is his nickname.
That's also from Thy Kingdom Come, yet another alternate reality which has nothing to do with Kingdom Come.
Why is it hyperbole?
Yeah, none of that is correct. What happened is Captain Marvel got splintered when he was trying to change into Captain Marvel and his speed and strength was transferred in Freddy amped up a million fold.
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That's not how he portrayed them. Under Mark Waid, when Flash went back in time to fight Anti Monitor, Captain Marvel and Byrne Superman couldn't even see him moving.
In Post crisis? Yeah, show me.
Yes, I wrote and drew that fanfiction.
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I'd like to see where Cap traveled back in time and entered 5th dimension.
That's a funny way to distort what actually happened in the comic. Show us where Cap wasn't trying to fight when the very first thing he does is suckershot Superman from behind.
Eclipso wasn't trying to injure Cap there. He just wanted Cap's body as it was magical.
Please go ahead. I'd like a good laugh.
Nice fanfiction. Why is it PIS? And why would that suddenly make that disappear? This isn't comicvine.
You are perhaps more forgetful than what I give you credit for. Adam thrashed Billy there. It was only after Shazam gave him a portion of his powers, he was able to fight back against Adam.
Freddy was powered by lords of order and chaos. Not by Shazam.
Totally different power levels.
Yes, as much he does against humans. When he stops holding back at the end of fight and threw a punch that could split a moon in half, Adam backs down.
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"Blessed with all the powers of Captain Marvel and more."
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"Hits harder than Captain Marvel too."
Lolz at being stronger than Superman though. A fully determined Captain Marvel had to stack the strength of Achilles on strength of hercules to stalemate a holding back Superman.
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Not his opinions are though. Unless there is something in the comic somewhere.
The scenes are written by writers and edited by editors. The characters don't write themselves.
He really isn't. Even his own writer says that.
Where?
Not second strongest though.
Oh really? Let me know when Captain Marvel is stated to be more powerful than Superman.
Funny, the same Jerry Ordway wrote a scene where an all out Superman killed, Cap, Diana, Hal, Flash and Supergirl all at the same time.
And I see you know Captain Marvel taking on Dreadnaught after he absorbed powers from J'onn, Superman, Aquaman and Elongated Man. Just after that a disguised Superman (he explained that in the last scan, he had the force-field and a force field so Psiphon couldn't deactivate his powers again) KTFO Dreadnaught with the power of Superman, J'onn, Captain Marvel, Aquaman and Ralph.
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