I think 50 is still too high for a single Jedi [even if that Jedi is Kenobi or Mace] to take out one-by-one without the others taking defensive or offensive measures, especially because Malgus is there.
This isn't Prime Malgus this is pre power-up Malgus. 50 is not too high. It would take several minutes for Malgus to get reinforcements to his position. By which point someone like Mace will kill him.
Yeah, those many being less than fodder. My point is, if sh!t tiers like Coleman Trebor can slice through hundreds of droids, Mace should slice them by the thousands.
I'm not arguing if Mace can solo these fuggs or not, I'm just saying your example is a bad one.
If he goes from being capable of casually crushing dozens of durasteel-armored Super Battle Droids to being overwhelmed by half-dead corpses, there's obviously a vast decrease, whether Mace notices it or not.
Literally, isn't my point. Had Mace been capable of straight up soloing this here thread [which is the crux of my reply], he could have done the same against that army of shitty battle droids without the causalities, and scored a decisive win for the Republic in the process. Especially, when other notable Jedi were helping out in the cause, yet, that wasn't the case - not by a long shot.
Then stop wasting my time with this usual bs of yours.
I chalk it up to inconsistencies between within the medium, one being a high showings, the other being a low one. Even at 1/8 percent of his power - which he obviously wasn't at that point, what happened shouldn't have.
My point is, army busting isn't always a thing in Star Wars, or the droids would have been ****ed when faced with the likes of Anakin, Ahsoka, and Obi-Wan on the battle field with Clones as backup. Yet, it's anything but - as shown time and again.
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Tbf, though, this scenario is completely different to the Geonosis arena. Mainly because Mace, Kenobi and co. could hide and use their knowledge of the Temple to their advantage, rather than fighting at an open area with few strategic locations.
Which can just as easily be chalked up to the overwhelming amount of battle droids present at the battle; literally millions. It's well established any decent Jedi can solo hundreds of them, so the death of so many Jedi is clearly due to the overwhelming number of droids that even Mace couldn't solo... But there's a vastly smaller amount of Sith here.
I wouldn't have to "waste your time" if you hadn't used a sh!tty example.
It isn't always a thing, but that's usually in the more subdued media like most canon sources, though Vader might have something to say about that. Logically, any high-tier Force user can best loads of fodder.
When Shaak Ti can hold off over a dozen of GGs best MagnaGuards(before the saberstaff) or over a solid minute while exhausted, or when Raskta Lsu can stomp hordes of Sith, then Mace sure as hell can absolutely decimate these guys.
Yes, the Republic side has quite a few forces on their side too. I recall like hundreds of Jedi and over 100,000th of Clone Troopers and such. They were vastly outnumbered, sure, but droids are some of the worst fodder in the history of fodder with aim that makes them miss for days, and durability of plastic. I'm saying is - if Jedi are as good as some are trying to advertise them, they should have won.
And Sith are significantly better than crappy battle droids. If only it was just the fodder sure he'd have a chance. Too bad some pretty powerful non-fodder Sith Lords are helping out - particularly Darth Malgus - someone capable of replicating feats Darth Vader, in one of the most exaggerated mediums, struggled to pull off.
No one here is clearing, much less Mace or Obi-Wan.
Nah, it wasn't really. It's just one of your many attempts to challenging me and failing horribly.
Even in non-canon [or Legends] sources featuring Anakin, Obi-Wan and Ahsoka, we see them struggling with battle droids and the total number is nowhere tens of thousands. Or Mace himself struggling to best space zombies and flat-out losing.
Sure, characters have army busted, but they have failed to do so about as often as they succeeded and are usually not portrayed that way. So to say Mace is definitely taking out this many Sith Lords in conjunction with Darth ****ing Malgus is preposterous.
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ROTS Sidious and Yoda do it with limited difficulty. Not a single Sith in that crowd can even react to them. Those two move faster than the likes of Deceived Malgus and Adraas can perceive.
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This is genuinely the most retarded argument I've ever seen you come out with, and that's saying something.
I don't care about this thread even remotely, but there are so many monumentous differences between Geonosis and this. The fact of the matter is, you're suggesting Mace couldn't have soloed the army on Geonosis, I'd ask where your proof of that is? We've seen him do it on Dantooine. Just because he couldn't solo the army and protect every one of the Jedi there doesn't mean he couldn't solo the army on his own.
What's more, being shot at from every angle and from hundreds of meters away is completely different to fighting melee combatants. There comes a point where amount of Sith is no longer the limiting factor to their effectiveness, 50 Sith would have no better luck killing Mace than 10, aside from their ability to wear down his stamina. The same cannot be said of 50 droids vs 10 droids, because unlike the Sith, all droids would be free to attack at once.
Again, not suggesting Mace wins this (though I could see it, tbfh) I'm just saying your argument is beyond paraplegic.
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Difference between Dantooine and Geo Arena. The Arena wasn't an open area for maneuvering and the Jedi were literally under a droid factory pumping out thousands of droids, the novel describing that droids were coming out of everywhere. The Dantooine battle, Windu wasn't underneath an entire factory which was constantly pumping out droids.
Another thing, the droids Mace fought the vast majority of them didn't even fire their blasters, they essentially just stood there with only few of them attacking. Frankly the SBDs just decided to go into melee range of Windu...which makes zero sense given they have blaster arms.
Also forgetting that giant hammer thing that completely wrecked all the clones and droids too, which actually helped out Windu.
The most droids that Windu actually took on at any given time were squads, he never took on the whole bulk of the SBD army, the only time that ever happened was at the very start with the AOE Force attack.
Trying to say that Windu actually took on a whole army is incorrect, he didn't, he took on squads of SBDs, much less thousands and thousands of droids which is what the Geo Arena was about.
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