Akuma wins almost as easily as Superman wins over Goku.
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Historically, gods like Shinock did threaten dimensional boundries and such. Hard to tell how much of that is them just being that powerful, vs serious amping from artifacts, such.as that medallion Quanchi tried stealing that made him on par with the gods, or those various artifacts that made Onaga invulnerable..
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That's > mountain busting (You can put a mountain on an island..)
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That's in the cinematic of the game and he don't really bust an island.
He puts an hard punch on the ground with Kongou Kokuretsuzan and start an eruption destroying the Island.
That feat is as relevant as the Punisher making a building explode via shooting an explosive...
Wolverine should win at least 8 times out of 10 against Akuma.
His durability, combat experience, combat speed and healing factor making him a deadly foe against Akuma.
Remember that Akuma can't block Wolverine's claws. His best shot is to attack from a distance and even then Wolverine can rush him and slice him in half.
Akuma can delay the fight but he will probably die the majority of the time.
Both showcase ki waves spreading out from his fist, a purple ki updraft from the punch, and him holding his fist to the heavens as preparation for it. None of this was present when he destroyed his island.
I shouldn't really address this tbh, because it doesn't really matter. Forcing a volcano to prematurely erupt with a punch is still a level of strength far beyond Wolverine's.
But can you provide any definitive proof it was a volcano beyond a distant shot of an explosion from the base of the mountain, which could have easily been caused by his punch alone? You seem to be assuming the presence of a volcano and assuming that this eruption is what caused the island to literally disappear, so you're going to need some evidence my friend.
I might be inclined to give Wolverine one win against Akuma purely because Wolverine can kill Akuma with his claws given their feats, but he's so hopelessly outclassed in power I find it unlikely. Wolverine gets manhandled by Spiderman. Akuma is far stronger.
His combat speed is worse than Akuma's, given that Akuma can cross the ocean floor to above the surface within the span of a single kick (while dragging the sunken ship he was kicking in half along with him), and given that he can blitz M. Bison, who himself can intercept his own satellite's laser. Given his far greater physical abilities and versatility he isn't losing this my friend.
And Wolverine can't block Akuma's punches. He's not strong enough.
True, and Akuma's punches will not be able to overcome Wolverine's healing factor.
But Akuma is not just very strong, but is also very fast and skilled, quicker than Namor is typically portrayed and far more well-versed in hand to hand combat. He also is more versatile and has more ranged attacks and destructive power at his disposal.
How would Wolverine handle the Shun Goku Satsu, which destroys the opponent's very soul? Does he have solid showings against attacks like these?
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The fist doesn't destroy the island, the fist creates a chain reaction that wake-up a Volcano that destroy the island.
In short the feats coming from the game are irrelevant.
They are more to showcase something spectacular but not really important to gauge the power of a character.
Here is the Island and we clearly see that after the Earthquake the Volcano is destroying the Island as there is fire and smoke:
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If you have to address feats, at least have the decency to use the comic books... I don't use the games for a reason or maybe you want to argue that Dan & Akuma are at the same level since Dan can beat Akuma in the game ?
Oh really ?
What information do we have on panel to tell how powerful this punch is and which amount of force is needed to wake-up a Volcano ? Nothing.
There is many comics with Akuma fighting at his best and he is nowhere near doing fatal damages to the other SF peak-humans with his punches.
The evidence is provided above and I will skip any other feats coming from the games coming from your next posts.
I will only rely on the comic books and that's all.
Oh really ?
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All of this hype and he cannot one-shot Ryu...
The most probable outcome is Akuma suffering fatal damages from Wolverine's claws.
He will probably hurt Logan but not enough to take him down.
He isn't.
Wolverine has feats as hitting people with FTE slashes of his claws.
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Please provide for Akuma XD
As for addressing Akuma's ability to REPOSITION himself with the Ashura Senkuu; that's just a technique that allows Akuma to glide at super-speed and avoid attacks...
Wolverine can deal with it even easier.
He can deal with Nightcrawler's teleportation and time and attack on Speed Demon after all. He just needs to anticipate where Akuma will be, easy.
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He was propelling himself to the surface, this has no relevancy to the combat speed which is dealing with X attacks and defences in one page for example.
Let's check M Bison combat speed:
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A SINGLE ATTACK IN ONE PAGE ! WOW !
Akuma isn't especially quick in combat neither.
How fast their attack is already showcased in the games !
Besides the energy projection and the fast repositioning with Ashura Senkuu, Akuma isn't particularly more versatile than Logan...
Physically it is possible that Akuma has more physical strength but so far I don't remember him lifting more than Wolverine nor that does matter in a fight...
Wolverine is far more durable and has an healing facter.
On top of that Wolverine is way quicker in combat and a lot more skilled than Akuma.
One century of experience my friend.
He can but Akuma cannot directly block the claws.
Wolverine wins 8 or 9 times out of 10.
The only way for Akuma to win is to keep the distance...
The Shun Goku Satsu can help but that's just 15 Chi-amped strikes coming from all directions in a few seconds. While it delivers spiritual and physical damages we both knows that Wolverine can heal from both.
Wolverine can deal fatal damages to Akuma in a single slash, that's why he wins.
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The games are the primary canon. You can't just disregard the games if you're going to discuss a video game character. Also what you're describing would be immediately discounted in any video game debate.
The correct response is "did Dan beat Akuma?". There is no canon instance of that happening that I am aware of.
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You don't seem to be following.
Canon events are not mechanics. "Dan _can_ beat Akuma" would be an argument of what's possible through mechanics. "Akuma removed that there island" is an example of a canon event.
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To perform even a chain reaction breakdown, we calculated that it would take a punch of about 25 megatonnes worth of physical force to do this. That is the power of a high end nuclear detonation. And guess what. Akuma was STILL holding back the lions share of his power when doing this. He was not in his Shin or Oni stages.
Next, we have the Kongou Kokuretsu Zan
Very similar to the Island Sinker, but is an actual special technique used to split Uluru right down the middle lengthwise. That is a split measured in kilometers.
Next up, we have the Tenshou Kaireki Jin
With this, you can see that Akuma not only surfaces from the ocean twilight to the surface in seconds, by jumping, UNDERWATER, but he does so carrying a sunken cruise ship, and breaking it apart with a single kick. This demonstrates not only impossible physical strength, but speed, and body control. The sheer pressure change from going from that deep in the water to the surface in seconds is astronomically insane. A human's body would have exploded under much less pressure change than that.
And finally, we have the Seikia Kuretsu Ha.
That is a beam that not only went right into high orbit, it cratered the forest around Akuma with the mere recoil of the attack... That, is insane....
Keep in mind, all these feats, were done with Akuma holding back the lions share of his power, in his base form. And yes, before you denounce anything, these are all canon, these all happened, and have been refferenced by people in later games, so no. these are not governed by game mechanics, These are governed by the games EVENTS.
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