The environment still has a surface, doesnt it? Or are they floating in space?
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1 - blindsided with a nasty combo, yet HF still kept him conscious (even if just barely - Simon sure seemed to be on a good way to score a KO).
2 - made his way back to the battlefield (under his own power and in reasonable time, as KMC requires him to), just bruised. Thing was in a world of pain after a single slash.
3 - the scan is pretty self-explanatory. Rogue fastball special'd Logan into the Thing the page before it.
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Damn, I remember "classic" Doc being very fast,
fast enough to catch up to a speeding mini-truck while he was borrowing under/through the ground,
and strong/durable enough to stalemate a raging Banner-less Hulk for 6 hours until interrupted. (he never loss)
Well, that's Byrne's Samson at-least, which imo, was portrayed at his best.
Doc's fighting skill is sub-par, but he's tough enough to take and dish significant punishment.
Again, "classic" as in Byrne's depictions.
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What about if 'the brick' (whoever it might be) just hits Wolverine hard enough that it drives him straight into the ground , like some sort of human tent peg? His skeleton would survive the 'process' even if it ripped all his flesh off, and he'd still (hideous thought) be alive. But would that count as 'Battlefield Removal'? I mean, if we could see his head popping out the top like a weird carrot top, technically he's still in the battle, even if his arms are pinned and he can't do f-all about it.
Never let anyone else define you. Don't be a jerk just to be a jerk, but if you are expressing your true inner feelings and beliefs, or at least trying to express that inner child, and everyone gets pissed off about it, never NEVER apologize for it. Let them think what they want, let them define you in their narrow little minds while they suppress every last piece of them just to keep a friend that never liked them for themselves in the first place.
Here's the thing. Most of the time someone's driven into the ground like a peg, they're the "tough on the outside with super strength" type. Because in reality, anyone without a degree of invulnerability/super strength just crumples into a heap when they're hit from above with massive force. I suspect it'd be no different with Wolverine. He's much more likely to fold, then jump back up than he is to be turned into a railroad spike. Knocking through the floor in a multi story building is one thing, but driving him into solid dirt... I just don't see it.
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In reality Logan would be a splatter of blood and skeleton from strikes against Doc and above. He's not bulletproof. Bullets pierce his flesh as easy as a normal human. That means he will get a significant portion of his flesh knocked off from hits from class 50 and above characters. His brain would be mush from the concussion he would receive from hits to the head.
Before healing factor? He had it in uncanny. Also the scans you posted were a mind controlled Walter. Hardly true representation and can post hundreds of scans of him being affected by far far less . So logical conclusion mind control affected Walter or more then likely bad writing. I will scan dump you *shakes fist*
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^^^ Exactly. He's like that character Immortal Man who gets killed two times an issue. Saying Logan doesn't get hit is a lol statement to anyone who reads any fives of his comics.
Spidey, he ain't.
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He didn't officially have a healing factor until almost two years after that issue, the scene Stilt posted was clearly depicted to contrast with their first confrontation, and there are more examples of Wolverine withstanding tremendous amounts of punishment than there are of him being knocked out by it, a lot more.
Wolverine wins, Samson's the kind of character he was built to destroy.
agreed.
Well, I think a "pulverized Logan", jammed in bedrock, or eternally burned to a crisp in a sea of lava, even while his body tries to heal itself, could or should b counted as a "win". And that's just off the top of my head. There are plenty if scenarios that a smart character like Samson could come up with. And he has the strength to do it.
If u guys want to say Samson wiuld get sliced if he got too close, ir that Logan could avoid a tree being used as a baseball bat, I would have to go ahead and say that Logan cant avoid a fire engine beibg used as a club.
The point is, Samson is still in the game. Or should b.