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The fights get longer and unfortunately some chapters are much shorter on average. Ippo crawls like a snail in terms of pacing once you catch up to it.


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Don't spoil it if it happens, but I have a feeling even Itagaki's new ultra instinct unlock won't be enough to handle Ippo.

He wasn't brave enough to step into the Dempsy Roll, and Ippo has one of the tightest guards out there. He'd simply hide behind peek-a-boo, tank the body shots, and methodically corner him until he was trapped. Then work him over with small, compact punch's.


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Just read the raw for chapter 1202. Drop this manga while you can. I know I am. Am NOT joking. To hell with this series . laughing out loud Onto a new manga!

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Why? It’s an amazing turn of events lol.


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Check your private messages. laughing out loud

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I know. Good drama is good. You might feel the manga is wasting your time but personally I’m really excited now.


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[SPOILER - highlight to read]: We'll have to agree to disagree. As a long time reader, I don't really see how the author can salvage this.

At any rate, this post from another forum summarizes my thoughts perfectly.


Someone really needs to ask Mori what the **** he's been thinking the last 5 years. While the series has had its ups and downs, pretty much everything regarding Ippo, Miyata, and Itagaki was part of a consistent, larger plan. Miyata's story stalled out after he defeated RBJ as Mori's only real option was to have him fight for a world title and Mori absolutely doesn't want that to happen for reasons. That was fine as he was a secondary character and would see his story pick back up once Ippo's went forward. (Mori has pretty consistently kept them in step.)

After winning the Class A tournament and receiving the baton pass, Itagaki was set up to win the Japanese Title and then maybe fight Miyata which would have been super interesting in what it would have done with his relationship with Ippo, but then Mori decided to throw the breaks on that and have Itagaki get in trouble with the JBC for sleeping with an official's wife. (If you think Itagaki lost to Imai, you need to lay off the sauce. It never happened)

Ippo was finally going to fight a world ranker and put himself in line for a world title fight. The Kojima and Volg fights were to show him the importance of being a multi-dimensional fighter. But then Mori decided to throw the breaks on that and have Ippo lose in a fight that was the manga equivalent of those filler scenes you see in DBZ when the fighters are punching/kicking repeatedly and the other fighter is responding (either dodging or getting hit) before deciding that Ippo's plot armor wasn't going to carry the day.

What's the plan here? Ippo is broken? We already ****ing knew that and didn't need another fight to show us it. There was a way to tie that into a somewhat reasonable end to the series but that involved Ippo realizing he didn't need to fight anymore and that his health was more important. That option died by having Ippo get back into the ring and lose

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[SPOILER - highlight to read]: We'll have to agree to disagree. As a long time reader, I don't really see how the author can salvage this.

At any rate, this post from another forum summarizes my thoughts perfectly.


Someone really needs to ask Mori what the **** he's been thinking the last 5 years. While the series has had its ups and downs, pretty much everything regarding Ippo, Miyata, and Itagaki was part of a consistent, larger plan. Miyata's story stalled out after he defeated RBJ as Mori's only real option was to have him fight for a world title and Mori absolutely doesn't want that to happen for reasons. That was fine as he was a secondary character and would see his story pick back up once Ippo's went forward. (Mori has pretty consistently kept them in step.)

After winning the Class A tournament and receiving the baton pass, Itagaki was set up to win the Japanese Title and then maybe fight Miyata which would have been super interesting in what it would have done with his relationship with Ippo, but then Mori decided to throw the breaks on that and have Itagaki get in trouble with the JBC for sleeping with an official's wife. (If you think Itagaki lost to Imai, you need to lay off the sauce. It never happened)

Ippo was finally going to fight a world ranker and put himself in line for a world title fight. The Kojima and Volg fights were to show him the importance of being a multi-dimensional fighter. But then Mori decided to throw the breaks on that and have Ippo lose in a fight that was the manga equivalent of those filler scenes you see in DBZ when the fighters are punching/kicking repeatedly and the other fighter is responding (either dodging or getting hit) before deciding that Ippo's plot armor wasn't going to carry the day.

What's the plan here? Ippo is broken? We already ****ing knew that and didn't need another fight to show us it. There was a way to tie that into a somewhat reasonable end to the series but that involved Ippo realizing he didn't need to fight anymore and that his health was more important. That option died by having Ippo get back into the ring and lose



Itagaki did what???

And which Imai fight? I thought he probably should have won their first pro match, on the basis he was pretty much a gentle breeze away from finishing him. Points wise, he lost the first half, and took the second half.. The judges seemed to think it was very close.

Of course, the judges also somehow thought a single down by Sendou makes up for Vorgs clear dominance..


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Mashiba "beat" Ippo.

Considering every single hard match Ippo's been in has him struggling early, and out on his feet at some point, it's no wonder he sucks at spars. Ippo's a comeback boxer, short spars don't showcase his strong points too well.


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Sendou vs Takamura 2 has my vote for best spar of the series. laughing out loud


Seeing Miyata taken down a peg was fun, even with all the excuses (Weight management, not using his legs..)

Looks like we won't see Mashiba knocked off the list. Wanted to see that one, just for the clash of attitudes (Plus the fact Sendou is kind of Saramura's friend, and Mashiba indirectly ended his career..)


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Am I reading Ippo or Naruto? Glowing fist?? Speed of sound punch?

TBH, I was pulling for Randy Boy Jr. I like the character, hope Miyata didn't break him.


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And now Ippo will be fighting Tarzan? This manga is starting to get silly..

I like how Ippo is slogging through all these national champs to the world, while Maahiba comes back after a year off and instantly gets an opbf title match, and a ticket to world contention.

Then again, he did move to Aoki's weight class, so maybe not so surprising. laughing out loud


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What weight class would you say is Ippo actually hitting at?

He distintigrates bone with a single hit, breaks skulls, he's clearly punching above featherweight.


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I have no clue. His punches are honestly kinda dumb lol.


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I have no clue. His punches are honestly kinda dumb lol.


Assuming they're not mistranslated, the writer keeps having characters call his punch's "retarded" lately.

Pretty funny when the creator himself is admitting this is getting ridiculous.. laughing out loud

I mean, the past few fights they had amnesia. One guy already had brain damage, and I was worried he was gonna drop dead walking up the steps. And the gore would make Robert Kirkman proud.. Every single match ends with quarts of blood just flying everywhere, more blood then there is in the human body.

Guy like Ippo should be banned from featherweights. With his build, he shouldn't even BE a featherweight, no one looks like a mini body builder at that class. laughing


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The Woli fight was... SUPER.

Very, very much "super". (please log in to view the image)


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Who do you think would win between Sendou and Randy?

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Tough one. We haven't really seen Randy against an in fighter, but it was implied he'd have more of a struggle with Ippo.

Sendou himself didn't think switching up would matter, but he's a cocky bastard. We've seen with Ippo that southpaw style definitely messes with a boxer's timing and distance, even at mid range. Only real option is ultra close, and I'm not sure Sendou can plow in like Ippo and stick there..


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So how about Woli vs Vorg?

Vorg actually tagged him in their little spar. And was definitely holding back, which is why he quit before someone got hurt.


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Ok, so the Woli fight was pretty silly. But I will say, I kind of like how Ippo won it.

On a kid who never developed himself as a boxer, under Ippo's fists, I can totally buy 11 love taps to the right spot causing damage over time, enough to turn the tide.

I also thino Kamogawa wasn't really being fair when he said Ippo wouldn't win a rematch. Fact is, Ippo threw those shots because Woli CAN'T avoid them in an exchange.. Nothing really changes about that in a rematch.. Knowing something's coming and stopping it are two different things.

Only sure way to avoid the hits, is to avoid an exchange. Which changes everything.. Now, Woli is actively changing his style, which could be a huge handicap on top of Ippo's new experience with him..


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