S_W, do you know who Maajid Nawaz is? You'd probably like him. He's very bravely trying to reform the Islamic Faith. He's a former radical Muslim turned activist basically. He's the kind of voice that needs to be raised up. He did a book with Sam Harris: Islam and the Future of Tolerance: A Dialogue. I believe it's also available as an audiobook which is what it was really intended to be, a conversation. Sam Harris has a free sample of the book on one of his Podcasts. His Podcast is called "Waking Up," and it's #23.
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Of course our speech should not come without social consequences, and that's part of what freedom of speech allows for since it allows others to criticize your ideas and behavior and present different views of you, but it should be entirely left to social consequences. A person or government should not have the right to threaten you with physical violence, theft, or incarceration for speaking in a way they do not like however, and that is the only way that a government can enforce restrictions on free speech.
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Oh yeah I saw that video and I have a lot of respect for that guy. Apparently he's suing the Southern Poverty Law Center for defamation since they called him an Anti-Islam extremist. Well, they are the same people that called the okay hand sign a white supremacy symbol.
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Shadilay my brothers and sisters. With any luck we will throw off the shackles of normie oppression. We have nothing to lose but our chains! Praise Kek!
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If I drew a picture of Muhammad, would that personally offend you?
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Lol so just to be clear; they both equally condone those acts? As Spock would say: fascinating.
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Rob, for some reason you are ignoring the fact that Christianity has Jesus who sort of did away with much of the OT law. So therefore there is no need for Christians to go around beheading, killing, raping, etc because Jesus will return and people who haven't accepted Jesus will get their just desserts in the afterlife. Islam has no such comparable figure. Islam is full-on bloodshed and savagery through and through. In Islam, Muslims are "strongly encouraged" to carry out violent commands in the name of Allah and his prophet. Jesus makes no such commands. He has some varying moods, but he never condones such violence. Does "turn the other cheek" sound familiar?
Jesus did no such thing. To the contrary, Jesus states specifically that he did not come to abolish the Old Testament law whatsoever. He told his followers to take up swords, and that he came to turn father against son and mother against daughter. The same New Testament that says to turn the other cheek also says that slaves should obey their masters even if their masters beat them. This peaceful Christianity is as big a fiction as the entire religion.
^ There's a lot of contradictory stuff in the Bible, yes. But Islam doesn't have so much contradictory stuff to allow for as much diversity of interpretation.
Could Jesus REALLY come out and say "I abolish the old testament"? Do you guys remember the OT God? He'd roast Jesus alive if he talked shit. Make him yearn for the days of being crucified and the utter horror that was his 3 day nap(the horror, the cave was damp and lacked wifi!)
But even without that, how can anyone say both religions equally condone this abhorrent behavior? In the here and now?
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Words attributed to Jesus in the Bible and how he's interpreted in light of all the reformation and modern spin that Christianity has undergone are two completely different things. That's why I said he had "various moods."
Look, you don't have to convince me that Christianity is filled with barbaric bullshit. I hate the religion with a passion. But you'll have a hard time convincing me that it's just as easy (or even possible) to interpret Islam as a mild, benign, peaceful religion. It's simply not. At its core it's not.
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