And he is on the caliber of SSB because you say so (because of their chilidsh fight)?
You know Goku was going quite often in SSB mode before ToP (also against Krilin)?
And like I said... imagine 17 being on the caliber of Golden Frieza? No he isn't. It's easy when Goku is in front of you in a sparring match.
He is on the caliber of SSB because Goku, having no intention to use SSB, was forced to use it during their fight and still fail to get the better of him. That's clear evidence of the writer's intent that 17 is at or around SSB level. You, on the other hand, appear to believe otherwise because . . . reasons? Head canon maybe? I dunno. You haven't exactly been clear and the way you phrase 17's fight with Goku (childish?) suggests to me that we're dealing with your head canon as opposed to any objective data.
And perhaps you thought Goku was trying to kill Gohan? Perhaps you thought Goku was trying to kill Frieza during their recent spar? Perhaps you thought Goku was trying to kill Vegeta during the 3 years he trained with him in the ROSAT? Perhaps you'll think Goku is trying to kill Jiren when they fight? Perhaps you're now thinking this is a road you don't want to go down?
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Not faster, and yet Goku could nsver outspeed Hit in both their matcb's.
Dypso is hyped as MUCH faster then Goku. He could only be defeated by exploiting his linear weakness, and the fact he's unable to blitz at top speed. Try thinking once in awhile.
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To fight with an opponent in a short bout or practice session, as in boxing or the martial arts. b. To make boxing or fighting motions without hitting one's opponent. 2.
Dyspo can speed up to blitz him sure, but he can't maintain it. 17 is strong enough to outlast him for sure and unlimited stamina goes a long way. If Dyspo can't one shot and we know he can't. Android 17 wins through stamina and generally being smarter than Dyspo.
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Thats kind of retarded dude. And I don't mean any particular offense, but to think that he's this blinded disoriented mess moving at speeds his senses can't cover is pretty absurd. If he can move at the speed, his senses are trained to follow with him.
Ray Terril can move so fast he can turn back time.. He still had to stop every so often in space, because he kept shooting past star systems and couldn't really make out where he was going.
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Exactly. They probably need to relook at the fight. Every last one of Dypso punches landed directly on Hits face. The downplaying that they tend to do is jokable
Nope. Not at all. The anime form is a hard place to get people to comprehend. It's like the people on this side of the forum cover their eyes on what's going on and imagine something completely different. It's hilarious.
Time-wise, Hit was able to deal with Dypso in under a minute and would've beaten him outright without Goku's assistance if not for U11's double teaming.
In no means is this a blitz by 17. This is just the fact that Dyspo couldn't secure a quick a win through speed blitz. He doesn't have the strength. Nor does he have the stamina to sustain his speed or even fight for longer than a minute. Assuming this is a battle to the death then 17 will win after being knocked around by speed during the opening of the fight. When 17 creates a counter strategy Dyspo will lose because he really only has one gimmick.
There is also the issue of 17's invisible energy signature. However Dyspo relies on his ears so he might not have to worry about that.