60000 shields: (main battle front)
20k from the Stark
30k for the Lannister
10k for the Golden Company hired by Cercei
20000 archers: Combined forces of House Lannister, Stark, Targaryen. (Left at back of main Front)
220 Catapults
400 Scorpions
60000 Wildfire Pots.
5000 Horselords.
3000 men for Westeros Cavalry (Starks, Lannisters, etc)
25000 Soldiers left on reseve (Comprised of the Unsullied, And other minor houses of Westeros)
100000 dead (minor possible number of dead)
40 dead Mammoths
5 packs of wolves (100 wolves)
150 Giants (dead Giants)
25 White Walkers.
3 dragons.
Main Characters: Dany, Tyrion, Cercei, Jamie, Jon, Bran, Night King, and Arya.
* ALL NUMBERS WERE TAKEN TO PUT IT THE FAIREST FOR LoTR (in some cases the minor possible number of individuals were placed). ARMIES OF THE ESSOS EMPIRES WERENT TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT. NUMBERS WERE BASED ON SEASON 7 ONLY!!
Cercei has wildfire. She has maesters to make them.
Most numbers were said by the characters in the several episdodes.
Jon claimed to have 20k soldiers in the north. The Lannisters were known to have more. Possibly twice that number. But i gave you 30 to make it more fair for u.
Cercei also said that she hired 10000 men. The Golden Company.
Dany bought 10000 unsullied..assuming half died it is 5000. Again putting it fair.
The horselords should make 5000. Each Khalasar has 100s of horsemen in their clans..we are talking ALL of them..again fair.
It is also mentioned in the las episode that they believe its 100s of thousands of dead. Again i did 100k exact to make it fair.
There were approx 40 Giants in the army of the wildlings that attacked the wal in the 5th season. It was said by Mace Ryder that many giants were being killed by the Walkers. So 150 is a fair number considering all the pissible tribes of Giants.
Etc etc etc. I havent exaggerated the numbers. They are all the contrary. They were rounded to make it the easiest possible for LoTR.
As i said. I did t included the empires of Essos. So it brings down the number A LOT!
We do not see the golden company so we have no idea what or how they'd react in battle. I can provide my source for this I'd like you to find one and we can proceed from there.
It's only fair we do the one film vs the one season but when it finally airs we can revisit and do the entire Lotr universe vs the entire GoT universe.
You need to provide a link and quit including armies we haven't seen on screen or applications of wildfire we haven't seen this season. That wall would come down quite easily. Smaug would wreck it.
This guy explains in detail ALL the troops in season 7. The show the Westeros troops only! And not the Army of the Dead! He is giving evidence of where he got the numbers from! So it is evidence. You can follow his links if your dont believe me.
As you can see I MADE YOU FAVOR. I put a minor number.
Cercei Specifically said in season 7 ep 7 that she hired 10000 Sellswords. Its there. The Golden Company are good fighters believe me.
Within reason. We don't see this army at all so it's not fair game. We have to at least see a snippet of what they are capable of or see them use mass wildfire this season. If you have a few examples of it that's fine. But you can't say they used wildfire when Stannis showed up and act like they have access to all that since it violates the spirit of the op.
They werent shown but they were known to be there by the Characters of the Series in Season 7. Valid info.
You begin to realize that Battle of the 5 Armies troops arent enought to win.
Better make a thread about GoT vs LoTR entirely. It is more fair for both parties and easier to pick a winner. Till then we can continue our Discussion.
Ok I missed this post earlier. You want to go based off these numbers against the numbers I gave. Probably be difficult to exactly pinpoint the numbers
The Golden Company since not shown is off the table. I am also restricting the widespread wildfire usage. I'll have to to look over this in more detail later and we can come to agreement and have our debate from there.
I have issues with the Golden Company and the Wildfire. We will have to come to an agreement. I'd like to have this war soon by the weekend. Once you log in either pm me or continue to respond here.
60000 shields: (main battle front)
20k from the Stark
30k for the Lannister
20000 archers: Combined forces of House Lannister, Stark, Targaryen. (Left at back of main Front)
Roughly 1000 Land Siege Weapons (Catapults, Siege Ballistae (Such as Scorpions), Arbalests, Gate Rams, Trebutchets, ect)
60000 Wildfire Pots.
40000 Dothraki Screamers
3000 men for Westeros Cavalry (Starks, Lannisters, etc)
25000 Soldiers left on reserve (Comprised of the Unsullied, And other minor houses of Westeros)
1000 Ships of the Iron Fleet
1000 Ships of the combined the Targaryen, Dorne and Reach navies
100000 Wights (minor possible number of dead)
40 dead Mammoths
5 packs of wolves (100 wolves)
150 Giants (dead Giants)
25 White Walkers
1 Undead Dragon
2 dragons
Main Characters: Dany, Tyrion, Cercei, Jamie, Euron, Jon, Bran, Night King, and Arya.
That's the estimated force of Season 7. It's not set in stone, as I had to speed watch the forst half of the season (Damn network didn't announce the start of the season for me before playing it) and I may be misremembering aprts of numbers, but this is at leats partially refferenced at the end of season 6 as well, so yeah.
So youll agree on the numbers I gave you? As I said before. I adjusted the numbers so that Lott Bo5A doesn't get butchered and it is more fair and fun. But as you can see and we discussed before..numbers are at my favor.
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