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Wonder Woman Vs Flash
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Leo is arguing my point without knowing it ( or perhaps he does?)
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he does. thumb up


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I'm finding I haven't the discipline at this moment to "ref info" the 2nd page of this thread as I did the 1st back on page 10. Especially since I completed half a page worth of it and saw it get deleted before I had a chance to save.
Moreover, I'm thinking of another, possibly better way to present info, as an 8-page 20 posts PER page log is kept by KMC, which one can access by clicking on a posters name and then "find all posts".


Thinking of that because a lot of the posts in this thread are multi-image link submissions, and, rather than try to reproduce the links, it'd be much easier just to link to the post or posts containing them.

For instance, right now I'm mulling:
"Wonder Woman has a fight that took place, according to "real-life" time, at faster than light speeds" ... (Sacrifice, WW 219, which should have taken at least 5 to 15 minutes, but was noted by Max Lord to have occurred in less than 2)

" ... and she has, to challenge the implied 'picosecond' or greater reaction feats are beyond her' arguments, the "Shattered God" incident a few pages back."


That's a double digit image submission.
But, rather than waste time trying to reproduce a dozen image links, if I just post the following for people to click on:

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/...21#post16391348

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Lol knowledge isn't yours.

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That's the page immediately preceding it. It was 1 on 1. She knew he was there. No stealth. He simply managed to punch her. Nice how he can dodge her kicks though smile[/B]


Ah, misremembered that scene.

Anyway, doubt he simply punched her ears, looked more as if he applied pressure with his thumbs on the nerve cluster in the ears area (glosso-pharyngeal nerve?).


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I remember Wally speedstealing from Amazo before that scene 🙊

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Later on,after that scene, the same narrator who is using those orange boxes tells how if with Wally's speed, ifAmazo didn't want to get hit, he wouldn't be.


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I don't think people are looking at that scene in the detail it need to be looked at.


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I don't think people are looking at that scene in the detail it need to be looked at.


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Guess he WANTS Batman to cut his legs off.


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Guess he WANTS Batman to cut his legs off.


Doesn't go along with what was shown during that scene with Diana. If you look at the scene carefully, Diana had him tied up before he could finish a thought.

Batman damaging an Amazo that is tied up isn't a bad showing against the character like you are trying to make it out to be. It's like me using Batman dodging a sun amped Superman as a low blow against the character (Supes).

She blitzed Amazo before he could finish a thought and had him tied up. Then, take a look at second and third scan in more detail. You'll see something.


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Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
I remember Wally speedstealing from Amazo before that scene 🙊



Different encounter, different time period, and quite possibly a different Amazo.
The scene you are referring to will take place almost 20 issues later, in Justice League of America #23, Volume 2.

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For Carver:

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He had the speed of Flash and Superman, and the MA knowledge of Batman. Black Canary, Hal, Red Arrow - they seem to be fine:
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-fExJgknsM...42/RCO020_w.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-8cXbrUPur...Ic42/RCO021.jpg

I mean, he even had the prep of Batman, lol:
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/--3-QjOrWY...Ic42/RCO014.jpg

So if you think Bats, whilst his legs are being cut off, let's people do it....

Bluewater brought up a good point, though. Read Amazo's speech. He thinks he's Red Tornado - and that WW is hid friend. Just like Kyle Rayner sucker punched WW because she wasn't expecting an attack from a friend, so too did WW sucker punch Amazo because he didn't expect an attack from a friend.

Here is the next couple of pages.

Note in YOUR scan, Amazo has only formed the word 'Situation' Bruce cuts his legs.

Then:
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Hi-USiqMC...Ic42/RCO007.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-2u60m9pT_...Ic42/RCO010.jpg

He STILL thinks they're his friends.

This scan that you've been using all this time as proof of WW's speed...has context.

But of course, with Wally's speed:
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-LeeLUGaoO...Ic42/RCO013.jpg

Note, this is AFTER he had drained WW. Guess he knows who to draw on, right?
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-spd_K9XQz...Ic42/RCO012.jpg


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One thing I'm noting with interest, in the following scene from that early Amazo "I'm John Smith!" encounter, is the implication that it takes the strength of Superman to make punch force from Amazo potentially lethal to every member of the team, suggesting Flash's customary punch magnitude, though delivered faster or more often, is far less of a concern:

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Source: Justice League of America #6, Volume 2

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By that logic, as Wally's speed is what's mentioned, that shows WWs speed is of no concern.


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Wonder Woman is usually performing her speed feats as defensive actions performed in a fight. Unlike the "John Smith" Amazo case, she's not normally wont to blitz people.

I don't expect her to win a sprint against Superman, let alone Flash, in her "normal" day-to-day mode. However:

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Source: Justice League of America, Volume 2.
Issue #26, if I remember correctly ...

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Being faster than Superman in reflexes does not mean being faster than Flash in reflexes.

Moreover,it was explicit that they weren't talking about travel speed, but reflex speed - and it was Wally who was mentioned.

Not WW.


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Being faster than Superman in reflexes does not mean being faster than Flash in reflexes.


Granted.

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Moreover,it was explicit that they weren't talking about travel speed, but reflex speed


'Kay.

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- and it was Wally who was mentioned.

Not WW.





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Storyline: "For Tomorrow."
Source: Superman #211, Volume 2
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Storyline: "For Tomorrow."
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Date: January 2005
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now why dont you post the scene of wonder woman blitzing him with the intent to kill and him moving so fast she couldnt even react... and back handing the shit outta her smile


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