If you hasn't seen the film avoid this post and stop reading now. It doesn't get that specific but it does contain details.
She said don't make me do this. Watch the scene again because no one was there to crush Superman. WW was pleading with him mid fight to stop. No one save Bruce had any real pain from the fight but he's a human being.
Well you put foreign stuff into your body I don't.
Restraining someone stronger than you isn't going to go well. I've always said Superman is the phsuiaphysiccal powerhouse of the team. If Batman wanted him dead well we see how that turned out.
Flash is inexperienced with fighting he even says on the commercial he just pushes people and stuff. He tripped over himself against Steppenwolf while other people were battling him. Try to show some objectivity and use the brain power to connect the dots.
Here you show your blatant fanboyism and double standards. The team wasn't trying to beat him just restrain a stronger person. Superman also recovered from the Knite and batman still managed to hit him again with his human reflexes. Superman tagged him multiple times but he isn't a murderer so this is in character for him. Zod forced him to choose between innocent lives and killing him. Superman only kills in those kinds of situations.
Flash was inexperienced, not trying to kill him, didn't beat anyone significant in the film and this is what you hang your hat on.
WW wasn't beaten either just hurt but she was begging him to stop the entire time. They were all hurt but not enough to even wince once post fight scene. Face it Superman doesn't really inflict damage unless your Bruce Wayne but nothing a little phsuiaphysiccal therapy can't fix.
False, since Batman was fast enough to strike Superman twice and he's a lot slower than the Hulk. Superman didn't ko any major players and really harm anyone in the film pic you're being honest. Hulk takes the initial onslaught and once he connects (Bruce Wayne did and he's much slower) he beats Superman down. Doomsday was catching him left and right despite fighting WW. Objectivity find some please.
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Yeah, she didn't want to do it, but she tried it anyway. What's your point, exactly? Superman took her and everyone else out of the fight by the time he was dealing with Batman.
All those cocks you take up the arse are foreign, Quan.
So what are you even arguing about? We're all saying Superman is physically more powerful than the rest of the League. Batman would have been dead by the time he used Kryptonite in BvS if Superman was out to kill him. He even pointed it out. As usual the only way Batman can win is if Superman is actively holding back.
Why are you such an idiot? The point was that he was fast enough to keep up with Flash, not that Flash was trying to kill him.
No, this is your double standard. Superman wasn't trying to kill them either, he was just tossing them aside and only got agressive when Batman showed up due to their history. He wasn't recovered from the Kryptonite fully, and you know this.
So you admit the only way Batman can win is if Superman is holding back? Glad we cleared that up.
Since you're a moron I'll explain to you like I'd explain it to a child. Nobody said the League was out to kill Superman, only that he's more powerful than them and as fast as Flash.
So where was she when Batman was about to get his skull crushed? Where were any of them? That's right, laid out by Superman.
How about you use a Superman that wasn't depowered for your argument? Hulk is physically weaker and literally thousands of times slower than him so that's never gonna happen except in your wet dreams. Doomsday is Kryptonian+ in stats, and that would include speed, so what is that supposed to prove? He's been Flash-level in the comics since his debut.
She did try but she wasn't going all out and was trying to talk him out of it. WW was his friend and no one was there all out. We see how different even the weakest of them fared against Superman all out. You are one weird guy.
I am arguing about their overall combat formidability not if they are stronger or not. WW is the more skilled warrior while Superman is the more physically powerful character. Superman never goes all out to kill unless he's forced to ala Zod so it's a part of his character dceu fans desperately try to ignore. Superman isn't a brutal character he's a farmboy that Batman still negated due to his tactics in bring Lois into the fray. Batman still chilled him out with his "big gun."
I never said he wasn't. The flash wasn't that impressive and did worse against Steppenwolf combat wise. He's a joke combat wise. He's very inexperienced and says he only has pushed people before. Weak dceu team overall.
Superman rarely if ever tries to kill unlike Batman or even WW. This is what makes him overall weaker his character not his raw abilities. We argue in character here and he's physically greater than they are. He used hv, etc. but it didn't really do any damage from his attacks just to Batman who needed a little physical therapy. That's all.
Superman had recovered and he was immune to Batman's attacks so the rest of his physalis abilities returned he just wasn't fast enough in combat. Batman's second shot was painfully slow even for human reaction times.
Superman almost always holds back so that's how he fights as a character. We argue in character not skillsets. That's the point that has finally dawned on you.
He isn't as fast as the flash he can react to him but flash is clearly faster. He is stronger than the rest but he isn't more skilled, doesn't have the tactical acumen of Batman, doesn't have the abilities of Cyborg or Aquaman either. He's just the strongest and has the most raw abilities physicality wise here. What brings him down is his cuckish mentality and farmboy morals.
They were harmed not hurt after the fight. Superman didn't win Batman did as soon as he deployed Lois. Superman stopped because he's a weak man weighed down by his morals in a fight.
Hulk is physically a lot stronger than Superman. He doesn't need the speed to amplify his strength. Hulk is faster than Batman who is fast enough to tag Superman so don't delude yourself.
Doomsday didn't display anywhere close to that level of speed. He had no training and was out of the gate more formidable than Superman. Quit ignoring the films and citing the comics to try to bail your pitifully biased argument out of the water. He was never faster than the flash but you have never had to be to tag the flash in comics.
There is just no way to argue Hulk doesn't get his shit pushed in. Superman's showings in JL pretty much cement what anyone with common sense already knew: Superman is a tier above. Understandable because he operates closer to his comic book counterpart then the marvel heroes.
[SPOILER - highlight to read]: The scene where he keeps up with flash and even lands a hit was a much welcomed surprise. I never expected to see something like that in the movie. His reaction time is way up there, again, as expected.
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Superman was almost too OP in this film. Not only did he easily solo the League but he comes in at the end and pretty much does everything. He saves most of the civilians, casually stomps Steppenwolf, and helps CYborg separate the Motherboxes. Seriously, outside of Cyborg, the rest of the League was pretty much pointless at the end.
Anyway, he stomps here. Hulk and Fenris can't touch him.
Yep. It reminded me of that one joke about why need the league when there is Superman. I agree he felt too OP, but at the same time I welcome the decision to go all out and make him the bona fida power house without room for doubt. Movie basically took a piss on the haters and any shitty argument they could make against him--battleboard wise anyways
Hulk has yet to show a fatal flaw whereas Kryptonians can have their necks snapped with moderate strength. If hulk gets supes in a bear hug and restrains him long enough, his vulnerable neck will be snapped like a toothpick
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