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Are these DC characters more powerful than Silver Surfer?
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abhilegend
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Originally posted by TheHulkster
It’s canon. And blackbodies don’t amp him. They allow him later to steal Unilords power.

No it isn't.

He already had all the souls Dark Watcher had absorbed. Hence why Dark Watcher was so weakened.


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Why isn't it canon again?


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abhilegend
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Originally posted by Damborgson
Why isn't it canon again?

It's a what if.

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Originally posted by abhilegend
MYTH

Surfer was cut into pieces and was still alive


First the evidence that the unilord saga is a What If story, here is the scene where surfer attempted to enter the unilord universe in SS v3 112

http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums...ferv3112p02.jpg
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Now what is revealed later in SS v3 114 is that surfer failed to enter the unilord universe and its all a What If scenario

http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums...ferv3114p02.jpg
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Now the reason why that scene can't be used as a proof that surfer can live even cut into pieces is that because HE DIED and his soul was absorbed into a blackbody and he shattered into pieces after that.

http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums...ferv3113p15.jpg
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Unilord made the union and called it Black Surfer

http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums...ferv3117p07.jpg
http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums...ferv3117p08.jpg
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While surfer's power was absorbed by twelve individuals which were granted his powers

http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums...ferv3117p02.jpg

The balck surfer then absorbed surfer's powers back and surfer after getting his body and soul back broke free from blackbody's control

http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums...ferv3118p19.jpg
http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums...ferv3118p21.jpg
http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums...ferv3118p22.jpg

That was one of the biggest MYTHS about surfer.

MYTH BUSTED


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Didnt Surfer recently start the Big Bang or something


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No


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Originally posted by abhilegend
It's a what if.


You were debunked here:

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/...12#post16004088

So it’s canon.

Dark Council is weakened by losing souls. Surfer is not amped by gaining them.

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Honestly Surfer would fare Superman better than Thor does

I'd still say Superman edges him out though


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Should go without saying
I assure you nobody in this thread was talking about Post-Flashpoint Billy.

Except you.

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Billy wishes a ping pong table into existence thumb up


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Originally posted by TheHulkster
You were debunked here:

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/...12#post16004088

So it’s canon.

Dark Council is weakened by losing souls. Surfer is not amped by gaining them.

laughing out loud @ debunked. Ambient couldn't debunk his shoes if he tried.

Surfer absorbed those souls.


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Originally posted by abhilegend
No


Yes he did.

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I assure you nobody in this thread was talking about Post-Flashpoint Billy.

Except you.

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OP didnt mention specific version so its only common sense to use the current one. The fact that people have to go back to flashpoint to pick a decent Billy shows just how far hes fallen.


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Yes he did.



OP didnt mention specific version so its only common sense to use the current one. The fact that people have to go back to flashpoint to pick a decent Billy shows just how far hes fallen.

No, he didn't. It was created by the devices alpha and omega as shown earlier in SS 9.


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Originally posted by Sin I AM
OP didnt mention specific version so its only common sense to use the current one. The fact that people have to go back to flashpoint to pick a decent Billy shows just how far hes fallen.
How has he fallen? He doesn't seem downgraded in power at all - quite the contrary, he now has a lot more versatility, being able to do spells, teleport and whatnot. He just didn't have enough time to rack up appearances.

Why do you keep saying random stuff?


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JBL gets his rocks off trying hard to troll superman fans
Just because I didn't say superman was more powerful than Surfer is not trolling. Trolling is when superman fans run to my posts because they don't want to hear Anything other than... Superman is the best at everything... Surfer is more powerful than anyone on that list. I'm not the only one who thinks so. If it bothers you are any other superman fan, then I suggest you join a superman worship site. My decision is mines just like yours is yours. Anything else and you will be reported.


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Just because I didn't say superman was more powerful than Surfer is not trolling. Trolling is when superman fans run to my posts because they don't want to hear Anything other than... Superman is the best at everything... Surfer is more powerful than anyone on that list. I'm not the only one who thinks so. If it bothers you are any other superman fan, then I suggest you join a superman worship site. My decision is mines just like yours is yours. Anything else and you will be reported.

Oh please stop!

Pretending as if majority of your posts are not borderline baiting. I’m not following you but I’m quite sure you post in majority of Superman threads or topics with silly little posts that intended to incite some sort of response

I don’t have a problem with your posts. They are your opinions and I couldn’t care less whether or not you agree with my opinion.


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Originally posted by abhilegend
laughing out loud @ debunked. Ambient couldn't debunk his shoes if he tried.

Surfer absorbed those souls.


He solidly debunked you.

Dark Council, in that form, is powered by souls. Surfer is not.

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He solidly debunked you.

Dark Council, in that form, is powered by souls. Surfer is not.

laughing out loud

Of course, of course. Oh you marvel zombie.

Surfer was powered by a blackbody and hence he could amp himself with souls.


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Originally posted by abhilegend
laughing out loud

Of course, of course. Oh you marvel zombie.

Surfer was powered by a blackbody and hence he could amp himself with souls.


I agree with you on this Abhi.


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laughing out loud

Of course, of course. Oh you marvel zombie.

Surfer was powered by a blackbody and hence he could amp himself with souls.


Hard to accept DC Droid?

Can you cite where he is shown amping himself up or where it is stated that he can?

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Originally posted by Sin I AM
Yes he did.



OP didnt mention specific version so its only common sense to use the current one. The fact that people have to go back to flashpoint to pick a decent Billy shows just how far hes fallen.


Having less feats doesnt mean he has fallen
you dont lowball a character because he has no feats, you only lowball a character when he has lots of low feats
we use pre52 billy because it's easier to gage his power level

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