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TenebrousWay
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Re: Outlander vs Revan vs Vaylin vs Arcann

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All at their peak.

1. Outlander vs Revan

2. Outlander vs Vaylin

3. Outlander vs Arcann

4. Revan vs Vaylin

5. Revan vs Arcann

6. Vaylin vs Arcann

7. All out free for all

No love lost fight to the death, who wins?

1. Probably Outlander
2. Outlander
3. Outlander
4. Revan
5. Revan
6. Vaylin
7. Probably Outlander

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The Outlanders scaling from Vaylin and Arcann is very good imo. Even Chained Vaylin's Sun Generator feat is up there imo. Not to mention tanking a hyperdrive explosion.

Not to mention Chained Vaylin [SPOILER - highlight to read]: overpowering Valkorion.

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Nephthys
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Oh yeah, I'd forgotten that's before she gets unchained. Interesting. So its entirely possible to powerscale the Outlander from Valks feats in KotFE. He even says that he has no more power over Vaylin and that only the Outlander is strong enough to kill her during her final attack.

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Originally posted by Intrpd
can anyone help me with the correct ranking of these characters, all at peak level

revan, outlander, nox, thanaton, arcann, vaylin, senya, hero of tython, satele, barsenthor, malgus, marr, malak, jadus, skotia, nyriss, traya, maul and dooku (to get more of a known benchmark)

can no one help me out here lol like COME ON MAN

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Your list of characters is way too long, filed with irrelevant people that could really only be based on speculation and nothing concrete.

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What feat has Revan accomplished that is superior to defeating Vaylin at her most powerful?

Getting carried by Valkorion doesn't classify as a feat, tbh.

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Which accolade does Revan have for being Valkorion's most powerful foe and "commander of the Force"(whatever that means)?

You're referring to the quote from the KotET site? If so, that's worthless, since it's referring to the situation in the present tense, where Revan is dead and is therefore not subject to the quote. On the note of accolades, though, Revan is labeled by SWTOR in the present tense as the galaxy's "greatest hero" after the existence of the Outlander had already been thoroughly established.

In this context, "the galaxy's greatest hero" can have two interpretations:

a) that Revan was the 'greatest hero' because he was the most prominent; i.e, he accomplished the most

b) that Revan was the 'greatest hero' because he was the most powerful of the lot

The former interpretation is utterly invalid because the Outlander would objectively be considered 'greater' in that aspect; he defeated Valkorion and did what Revan could not. Therefore, we're left with only one conclusion: that Revan is the "greatest" because he is more powerful than the Outlander. thumb up

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Your list of characters is way too long, filed with irrelevant people that could really only be based on speculation and nothing concrete.

who are those

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this is the chain as far as i understand it tbh

DE Sidious > Viti > Yoda > Mace > Revan > SF Malak > Kun > Vader > Dooku = Arcann > Maul

with malgus maybe around between kun-vader level and outlander and plagueis about mace level

thoughts any1? or am i completely off

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this is the chain as far as i understand it tbh

DE Sidious > Viti > Yoda > Mace > Revan > SF Malak > Kun > Vader > Dooku = Arcann > Maul

with malgus maybe around between kun-vader level and outlander and plagueis about mace level

thoughts any1? or am i completely off

DE Sidious > Yoda > Mace > Vitiate > (RotJ) Vader > Revan > Dooku > Maul > Arcann > SF Malak

Not sure about Kun.

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DE Sidious > Yoda > Mace > Vitiate > (RotJ) Vader > Revan > Dooku > Maul > Arcann > SF Malak

Not sure about Kun.

hmm the chain i posted was more or less harrisons chain lol, interesting tho

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wat about this chain

vader > vastor > mace > kotor revan > sf malak > kun > vader

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this is the real chain based on scaling and quotes

Sidious > Plagueis > Tenebrous >>> Bane = Vader = Revan >>> SF Malak > Kun ~ DE Sidious > Vader <<< Dooku < Yoda > Mace << Vastor << Vader

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1.Outlander.
2.Revan/Unchained Vaylin.
3.Arcann.

Is about how the ranking would go.

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Outlander's ranking depends on what you make of him walking though Vaylin's force attack after Valk protected him from the initial shockwave.

There's no case for Revan> Vaylin however. The latter shown both directly as, and hyped to be a threat to Valk by virtue of her power, the former clearly depicted as crap to Valk in SOR.

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Outlander is far more powerful now than he was at the end of KOTET.

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^ And that. The Outlander is constantly getting stronger.

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Outlander's ranking depends on what you make of him walking though Vaylin's force attack after Valk protected him from the initial shockwave.

The Outlander had just defeated Vaylin. Sure it was a team fight, but I doubt Lana and Theron are better than Vaylin's Horizon Guard and troops. And Valk didn't protect them from the blast.

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^ And that. The Outlander is constantly getting stronger.

The Outlander had just defeated Vaylin. Sure it was a team fight, but I doubt Lana and Theron are better than Vaylin's Horizon Guard and troops. And Valk didn't protect them from the blast.

Arcann and Senya*

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