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Damborgson
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Originally posted by abhilegend
I didn't say it's not a feat. Just that the degree of time delation was never showed to be higher than say a few moments slower.

Now you are just talking like Celey.


That's not what tar is like.

I'm immigrating you actually. At least you saw it was illogical.


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Originally posted by Damborgson
Abhilegend, how long do you THINK it took for Thor to move, considering that the bomb was killing more and more gods as they spoke?

And that between the scenes where Gorr was talking to King Thor and Gorr swung himself around to see what was going on, they were still in the same position. It was moments, and whatever was going on at the epicenter of that bomb, Thor was forced to overcome.


Didn't the bomb affect every god at every time? Gorr said that thor was meeting death at every single second of his life, like every other god. This bomb was a time bomb so that it affected every god at all time. imo time became tar like in a chimney because a time bomb had gone off. Navigating through burnt up time isn't a speed feat.

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Originally posted by Diesldude
Didn't the bomb affect every god at every time? Gorr said that thor was meeting death at every single second of his life, like every other god. This bomb was a time bomb so that it affected every god at all time. imo time became tar like in a chimney because a time bomb had gone off. Navigating through burnt up time isn't a speed feat.



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It was only within the god bomb itself.


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Originally posted by abhilegend
Is it now? How come King Thor and Gorr never mentioned it like he was standing still in time.

And its not metaphor for time to stand still.

Why would they have to mention something narration itself just made clear.

You expect them to say "omg, Thor is in a time dilation"? Lol..
For all we know they didn't even notice since Thor moved through it fairly quickly judging by him moving fast enough to save all the dying gods.

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That's just laughable. Time wasn't standing still all of a sudden. When it does, it's stated by characters outside the time warp.

No such statements were made.

laughing out loud

Never moved anything in a tarpit, have you?

Abhi... The godbomb was "infused by the chonomancy of the time lords of chronux". Time magic was a major component. "At the heart" of the explosion, "time had become tar". Metaphor for something moving so slow that it looks like it's not moving at all. Not hard to fathom considering the bomb itself was infused with time magic.
https://i.imgur.com/XXCdY16.jpg

In this country when someone says you're moving as slow as molasses, it means you are moving phukkin slow like your brain is in this thread.
If someone says you're moving like tar... Well.... You may as well not move at all.

Anyways..
Peace and luv my tarpit swimming friend.


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It was only within the god bomb itself.


So a bomb goes off and time becomes putty? Lame logic i mean gif.

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Originally posted by carver9
Lol...current Superman is new Superman. Do you want me to call him old Superman?


Its just Superman. He's the same.


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Originally posted by Damborgson
That's not what tar is like.

I'm immigrating you actually. At least you saw it was illogical.

Do you know what tar is? It's not some immovable object.

Look how Celey diverted the topic. It's the same.


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Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Why would they have to mention something narration itself just made clear.


That time was standing still? Where is that said?
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You expect them to say "omg, Thor is in a time dilation"? Lol..
For all we know they didn't even notice since Thor moved through it fairly quickly judging by him moving fast enough to save all the dying gods.


They saw him doing exactly what he was doing. Gorr was saying what he is doing and King Thor says he is dying like a God.
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Abhi... The godbomb was "infused by the chonomancy of the time lords of chronux". Time magic was a major component. "At the heart" of the explosion, "time had become tar". Metaphor for something moving so slow that it looks like it's not moving at all. Not hard to fathom considering the bomb itself was infused with time magic.
https://i.imgur.com/XXCdY16.jpg


To move the effect of the bomb on all gods across the time.

It never says that time would stand still inside the bomb.
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In this country when someone says you're moving as slow as molasses, it means you are moving phukkin slow like your brain is in this thread.
If someone says you're moving like tar... Well.... You may as well not move at all.


Yeah, real life examples are so useful here.
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Peace and luv my tarpit swimming friend.


You too tarpit overcoming speedster.


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Originally posted by abhilegend
Do you know what tar is? It's not some immovable object.

Look how Celey diverted the topic. It's the same.


Yeah, yeah.

You already agreed he went through a time slowing effect, so works for me thumb up


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Originally posted by abhilegend
Time passed there but also lay stagnant.

And where did Thor overcome time being tar? He moved at an unknown pace and tar can be navigated with sufficient force.

Aaron had a second writer to balance him but yes, he was the writer.

And? Phoenix doesn't has a very good record herself under Aaron.

Yeah, it's standard Doomsday scenario. Where only Superman can stop Doomsday.

Only Mangog is weaker, less tough version of Doomsday.


In the God Bomb. Time was stopped or close to it, Thor moved regardless.

The Phoenix was described as a literal Universal force capable of ending creation and burning it to a crisp.

Can someone please just ask Aaron on twitter about this? He can reply and we can end this discussion and not detail this thread.


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Damborgson, Celey, don't reply to Abhil anymore. It literally stifles all conversation and buries any interesting posts or scans in like minutes over the same shit being recurgetated over and over. Terrible for conversations. Let's get some other posters in here, hell, even Philo. Just so we can have some lively conversations. This shit is a lot more fun and enjoyable when we aren't spending ten pages arguing that what was stated on panel is what happened.

Darksaint, xjlking, dieseldudes, share your opinions! Let's have some dick measuring the fun way!


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Originally posted by Damborgson
Yeah, yeah.

You already agreed he went through a time slowing effect, so works for me thumb up

Yeah he went through time dilation. Not much of it though.


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In the God Bomb. Time was stopped or close to it, Thor moved regardless.


Proof of this?
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The Phoenix was described as a literal Universal force capable of ending creation and burning it to a crisp.


Phoenix has a lot of lip service. In actual practice it's not so good.
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Can someone please just ask Aaron on twitter about this? He can reply and we can end this discussion and not detail this thread.


Go ahead.


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Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Damborgson, Celey, don't reply to Abhil anymore. It literally stifles all conversation and buries any interesting posts or scans in like minutes over the same shit being recurgetated over and over. Terrible for conversations. Let's get some other posters in here, hell, even Philo. Just so we can have some lively conversations. This shit is a lot more fun and enjoyable when we aren't spending ten pages arguing that what was stated on panel is what happened.

Darksaint, xjlking, dieseldudes, share your opinions! Let's have some dick measuring the fun way!

Says the guy who just replied to me.

Afraid of me, eh rage?


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Yeah, yeah.

You already agreed he went through a time slowing effect, so works for me thumb up
Let's try an analogy...

Him being dropped in that location where time became tar, would be the equivalent of me dropping you in the water and telling you to run, you'd agree, no?

But you can still run in water, even if slower. Does that mean you have super speed? Of course not.

On the other hand, what abhi is trying to say, is that if it was specified that every second there is like an minute/hour etc. outside, then we'd know that Thor is 60/3600 etc. times faster than 'normal. This is not the case.

That's why he brought up the 'days' thing. If you're dropped into a region of space where 1 second for you is 5 days for the one outside, and you accelerate so fast that you're catching up to what is outside, it would mean you're 60 (seconds) * 60 (minutes) * 24 (hours) * 5 (days) faster than normal so that a second outside would be the equivalent of a second inside.

Then, to draw a comparison to that, he pointed out that the time outside Thor's bubble, even as he was standing still and hadn't began moving, wasn't passing ridiculously fast compared to him, so it means that the relative difference in time passage is insignificant.

Makes sense?


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Should be a stalemate. Superman's perception of Mangog should allow him not to get hit if he didn't want to.


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Originally posted by abhilegend
That time was standing still? Where is that said?

They saw him doing exactly what he was doing. Gorr was saying what he is doing and King Thor says he is dying like a God.

To move the effect of the bomb on all gods across the time.

It never says that time would stand still inside the bomb.

Yeah, real life examples are so useful here.

You too tarpit overcoming speedster.

Yeah. They saw Thor picking up the hammers in mid air and smashing them together. Then he proceeded to absorb the black stuff. It didn't indicate whether they knew there was a time distortion or maybe if they were within the distortion themselves, but had no effect. They were after all beyond Thor's level.

Yes. We know it was to affect gods in different timelines. But the mere fact there was time magic involved, it's not inconceivable a time dilation resulted from such an explosion. We know there was a time dilation because the book actually pointed it out.

And as for the flow of time outside the field of distortion, it depends on whose perception or point of view.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-VUO1uECVh.../s1600/-005.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Fe_Bl08Yt.../s1600/-012.jpg

He powered through time dilation and moved fast enough to save the dying gods.


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Yeah. They saw Thor picking up the hammers in mid air and smashing them together. Then he proceeded to absorb the black stuff. It didn't indicate whether they knew there was a time distortion or maybe if they were within the distortion themselves, but had no effect. They were after all beyond Thor's level.


It indicates how much time dilation was there. Answer : not much.
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Yes. We know it was to affect gods in different timelines. But the mere fact there was time magic involved, it's not inconceivable a time dilation resulted from such an explosion. We know there was a time dilation because the book actually pointed it out.


It wasn't shown hence it wasn't there. End of the discussion.
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And as for the flow of time outside the field of distortion, it depends on whose perception or point of view.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-VUO1uECVh.../s1600/-005.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Fe_Bl08Yt.../s1600/-012.jpg


Because that's just localized time manipulation and she just speeded time up. Hence why one character is surprised to see other one.
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He powered through time dilation and moved fast enough to save the dying gods.


laughing out loud

Good luck with that.


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So how much time was passing outside the bubble.

I posted scans of Bloodthirst putting Superman in a "time bubble" that claimex days and nights were passing in moments, from his perspective. Until he managed to speed up to normal time.

Posted the scans many times, and no one cared, so pardon me for insisting on some proof of how great this feat is. Before I get to be the one blowing feats off. stick out tongue


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