Morrison JLA Wally West (arguably Flash at the top of his game.)
All battles would be no prep, no BFR in the middle of the desert.
NOT A GAUNTLET.
Can Flash beat any/all of the following yes or no.
Norrin should be able to negate most of the speed force's effects, have tricks of his own (He can freeze time), and have the raw speed.
Firelord and Terrax are kind of jobber heralds. Terrax lost to Space Knights, Firelord lost to Spidey.
Nova... wasn't she captured by Skrulls? Don't really know anything else about her.
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Never let anyone else define you. Don't be a jerk just to be a jerk, but if you are expressing your true inner feelings and beliefs, or at least trying to express that inner child, and everyone gets pissed off about it, never NEVER apologize for it. Let them think what they want, let them define you in their narrow little minds while they suppress every last piece of them just to keep a friend that never liked them for themselves in the first place.
Can't think of a time Flash had consistent, good track records against Heralds. When he fights them, they usually brush off his attacks. KMC version of Flash clears this with all of them not even knowing what happened when they wake up. The real Flash that we see every week in comics dies immediately by anyone here.
Can Flash shoot fire from his eyes? We use comics to prove what he can or cannot do.
When people argue for Flash, they use comics to show that he is indeed capable of it. How do we know he has the abilities to beat these guys? We have comics.
Never let anyone else define you. Don't be a jerk just to be a jerk, but if you are expressing your true inner feelings and beliefs, or at least trying to express that inner child, and everyone gets pissed off about it, never NEVER apologize for it. Let them think what they want, let them define you in their narrow little minds while they suppress every last piece of them just to keep a friend that never liked them for themselves in the first place.
So you use comics to prove that he have speed while ignoring capabilities? With that said, Hulk can thunderclap and the near unlimited strength. With that said, i can just say Hulk can thunderclap the Universe to dust?
He nearly over powered an Abstract that possess unlimited power. Let's just take it to Galaxy level thunderclap then. He possess the strength as shown on panel and he has shown that he can thunderclap.
You have scans of him actually finding out an opponent's weakness and acting on it (and not just threatening; otherwise I can use Flash THREATENING to throw a thousand IMPs before a speedster can blink as proof)?
Scan of him wrapping adamantium around opponents' skulls?
I can show scans of Flash speedstealing from speedsters.
Flash throwing IMP within a picosecond, blitzing a speedster.
Running billions of scenarios within a nanosecond etc.
You, have to prove that Surfer can/has done what you say he can/will do.
Is Surfer more versatile? Of course. Yes, he is. 1000% agree.
But versatility doesn't mean anything when one guy is faster.