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Love triggering snowflakes like you.


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he said, treading lightly and hiding his contempt for christians.


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he said, treading lightly and hiding his contempt for christians.


You take that fake narrative and run with it kiddo thumb up


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he said, treading lightly and hiding his contempt for christians.


He’s the ‘bottom’ in that relationship


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Love the triggerdom, you two aren't 69'ing each other at all wink


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You take that fake narrative and run with it kiddo thumb up


it's not a narrative. or did someone hack your account when you compared christianity to terrorism?

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Here is the thing you don't get though. Christianity is focused on because that religion has a vastly larger effect on this country then Islam or anything else. You see Radical Islam is the enemy, but you say it as if it's the only threat. Christianity represents are different kind of problem, it's more subtle..not something physical.

As much as people might be afraid of terrorists, Christianity has far more of an effect on the everyday lives of people in this country.


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Lol kiddo, the false narrative is that there is any hesitation to bash religion.

But this topic was more about leftist hypocrisy, so I can see why it triggered you and you are trying the tactic you are now. Love it.


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Lol kiddo, the false narrative is that there is any hesitation to bash religion.

But this topic was more about leftist hypocrisy, so I can see why it triggered you and you are trying the tactic you are now. Love it.


that's your best explanation?


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that's your best explanation?


Does the truth disturb you? It's okay.

And still hypocritical as hell for anyone who thought Pence was crazy but doesn't think Oprah is.


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it's not a narrative. or did someone hack your account when you compared christianity to terrorism?


Oh ohhhh, he’s going to have to do an impressive display of backpedaling over that one.


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Oh ohhhh, he’s going to have to do an impressive display of backpedaling over that one.


Ohh? This will be good. Why?


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Does the truth disturb you? It's okay.

And still hypocritical as hell for anyone who thought Pence was crazy but doesn't think Oprah is.
ive compared hardline chrisians to terrorists, but i don't recall ever demonizing all of christianity like that. your attitude toward christians is very changable because you're two faced.


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ive compared hardline chrisians to terrorists, but i don't recall ever demonizing all of christianity like that. your attitude toward christians is very changable because you're two faced.


Lol, you're one of the most two faced people here kiddo. Do better.

And I stand by everything I've said about Christianity or Islam.


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he can't back peddle or spin it, and that's why he's broken now.


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Context matters here. If you're religious, God "talking" to you is easy to see as metaphoric. Lots of people would agree that God has "spoken" to them through signs and prayer. But you'll also lose a certain percentage of that if you purport to have a literal prayer-line to God, and he's giving you practical advice on - say - policy decisions. Most will happily subscribe to "God works in mysterious ways" but will turn skeptical if you take it too much further than that.

From a more secular bent, it's easy to see both statements as asinine, though again, context could temper one reaction or another. But I'd say there isn't much difference in the two statements. I'm not sure where the hypocrisy is, tbh. I've "applauded" politicians my whole life whose religious views I usually disagree with, because it's the world we live in and I'm more interested in other things. As it is, I don't know Oprah's positions well enough to say much on her specifically. Her predilection for endorsing the pseudo-scientific, predatory wings of the self-help industry makes me a bit skeptical, but she's clearly intelligent in many respects.

And from a practical perspective, many will criticize one and applaud the other, but it has more to do with their body of work than a single statement. If you agree with Oprah's worldview, one statement you disagree with won't be treated as harshly. If you agree with Pence's worldview/policies/etc., same thing. And same for disagreement. So it's likely that any hypocrisy in response really isn't hypocrisy, it's just people having some holistic perspective.


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Context matters here. If you're religious, God "talking" to you is easy to see as metaphoric. Lots of people would agree that God has "spoken" to them through signs and prayer. But you'll also lose a certain percentage of that if you purport to have a literal prayer-line to God, and he's giving you practical advice on - say - policy decisions. Most will happily subscribe to "God works in mysterious ways" but will turn skeptical if you take it too much further than that.

From a more secular bent, it's easy to see both statements as asinine, though again, context could temper one reaction or another. But I'd say there isn't much difference in the two statements. I'm not sure where the hypocrisy is, tbh.

And from a practical perspective, many will criticize one and applaud the other, but it has more to do with their body of work than a single statement. If you agree with Oprah's worldview, one statement you disagree with won't be treated as harshly. If you agree with Pence's worldview/policies/etc., same thing. And same for disagreement. So it's likely that any hypocrisy in response really isn't hypocrisy, it's just people having some holistic perspective.


Nah, it's hypocrisy.

All or nothing thing. Either you think these imaginary beings can contact you or you don't.

If you do, there is to be zero whining just cuz someone else thinks so.


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Nah, it's hypocrisy.

All or nothing thing. Either you think these imaginary beings can contact you or you don't.



wow you dissected his argument like a surgeon.


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wow you dissected his argument like a surgeon.


It didn't need dissecting like a surgeon. It's an all or nothing thing. Either thinking imaginary beings contacting you is crazy or it isn't.

And that isn't the only hypocrisy. The hypocrisy comes from knowing if some Muslim went "Allah talks to me, no literally talks to me" leftists wouldn't be calling them crazy.

So no, I just don't buy his reasoning.


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Cuz here is what isn't true: thinking an omnipotent being signaled you out in order to send you a sign>>>>thinking this being is just legit saying words to you.

Both are crazy, if you really want to get into crazy. No, it's not about this holistic bullshit, someone like Joy Behar is too stupid to be that complex.

I don't doubt the shit Digi said could be the case for some people in the world, but nah, don't buy it for a second it's the case for those who whined.


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It didn't need dissecting like a surgeon. It's an all or nothing thing. Either thinking imaginary beings contacting you is crazy or it isn't.

And that isn't the only hypocrisy. The hypocrisy comes from knowing if some Muslim went "Allah talks to me, no literally talks to me" leftists wouldn't be calling them crazy.

So no, I just don't buy his reasoning.


For me personally, I do think it's crazy. But I'm trying to turn this into a general discussion. And the problem is that there are TONS of people who would make the distinction I made in my first paragraph, depending on the degree to which they think they're conversing with God.

So your assertion doesn't hold up to reality imo.


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