Bias is everywhere kid. You'll learn academic Integrity falls to all agendas when you are older. Your post reveals your lack of understanding of the world. you are ridiculously naive.
Also, where I'm from, "learnt" is frowned upon because it is seen as an uneducated use of "learned" similar to using the word "ain't." It is still correct. But, don't worry, I won't criticize you for it - even indirectly - because the great American Education I received also taught that language is quite fluid.
Right, 'learnt' is frowned upon in primary school in English speaking countries but it is still picked up in the less educated parts of the population. I suppose you were ill or on holiday when they taught this lesson in your primary school class?
Do not worry, I will not criticize you for your inappropriate corrections of English, as well. We are good pals.
These are alternative forms of the past tense and past participle of the verb learn. Both are acceptable, but learned is often used in both British English and American English, while learnt is much more common in British English than in American English.
As someone who studied English at university I can tell you all that the only important thing I learned about grammar and spelling is that its all a crock of horseshit a bunch of old rich bastards just decided was 'correct' and then forced everyone to conform to.
If it carries your meaning across then its proper English. There's no inherent right or wrongness to any way someone speaks and language is constantly evolving in how people use it.
I messaged a British primary school teacher. She confirms that she teaches the children "learned" as "learnt" is the lazy uneducated version. This just so happens to coincide with other British English speakers reporting that they were taught to spell it with "learned" in primary school but kept the colloquial "learnt" as adults.
It's as if language is fluid and communication occurs if the message is okay. Perhaps linguistic elitism is for the small minded and uncouth?
Do you understand that you're playing a game that makes my exact point? I think you are getting too old to play these games.
Well perhaps she should write to the Oxford Dictionary and tell them they are the wrong DDM. Afterall she, I am certain is better qualified than the compilers there are. As I am sure is your website's compilers.
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I personally use 'learnt' because it reduces confusion in text when referring to someone who is 'learned' (i.e., Learn-Ed), but overall I agree with your statement that language is fluid and can and should change to suit the needs of the user.
It's not an excuse to get their / there / they're wrong, though, to me that just shows an adversity to detail and a desire to learn (not that you do this, you don't, but many other users on this forum do, and it makes it slightly harder to believe that their political beliefs are particularly well thought through).
Yes, I'll ask them why they list "learned" first, why "learnt" only appears in only 1 out of 3 instances of British English, and request an etymology of when 'learned' evolved into 'learnt." Good idea! Oh, wait, I'm not a linguistic elitist and it doesn't matter to me.
I do not care for the idea of being a spelling and grammar Nazi. I care more about the message. For example, there are several physicists who have atrocious spelling and punctuation but are leaders in their field of study. They are definitely not idiots or stupid.
Also, I have used the incorrect versions of 'your' on several occasions. When you're typing fast, you're correct, it's just not paying attention to detail. I am a frequent offender of making careless mistakes like this. And the damn edit function on KMC has brought down post quality since it broke, in my opinion.
I think the best way to learn is just to be aware of resources that can help you remember which is applicable, and to refer to them any time you have any doubt. After a while, it'll just come naturally. Same with any other grammatical details, or even with learning a new language entirely.
My English is Excellent, but English is not what any of my three degrees are in. But I have no need to brag re-qualifications, I got them long ago. I make very few errors to be honest in English. I mean really a comma between "elitist" and "and" is needed, but who cares. As you say we are not grammar nazis. I do like to read decent prose though.
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My English is Super Excellent, but English is not what any of my 5 degrees are in.
You're right: no need to brag about them. I got my last degree 3 years ago and my last Professional Certification a few months ago. No need to brag about these things as that would be just lame and terrible.
Nah, it's not needed. It would be incorrect to add that. This is why you're only Excellent and I'm Super Excellent. You're still making simplistic mistakes like that.
AS for professional certification, I have the highest in my field. But yes no need to brag, I also have nowhere to go career-wise as I am at the very top of a very competitive field. I would have chosen simple over simplistic in that sentence. Yes, you make lots of English errors.
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So you possess much market value I assume? After all, the entire point of higher education is to gain market value so that you can make a return on your investment spent on hefty tuition costs. For example, choosing to pursue a degree in philosophy, english, or liberal arts over, say, electrical engineering would be incredibly asinine since it's extremely unlikely you'll ever make back the tuition spent on a "hobby" degree—which in the eyes of an employer means nothing.
Of course I know you wouldn't have made such a foolish mistake since you seem to hold yourself in high regard on these forums .
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Perhaps linguistic elitism is for the small minded and uncouth? 
