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Nope Disney have made him that weak. You would have cried before TLJ that Disney wouldnt make him a stand in villain to be wasted after 1 film either. But they did. So your theory about what Disney would and wouldnt do are trash.

The TLJ graphic novel confirms Kylo >>> Rey as of TLJ. Thats Disney and Story Group conformed Canon.

Ergo all Snoke has done is own a padawan and control Kylo with the use of his guards.

Trash tier, honestly.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NYy4cT3Mzc
is exactly that, that will happen with snoke in the first second of fight.

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Originally posted by Darth Thor
Nope Disney have made him that weak. You would have cried before TLJ that Disney wouldnt make him a stand in villain to be wasted after 1 film either. But they did. So your theory about what Disney would and wouldnt do are trash.

The TLJ graphic novel confirms Kylo >>> Rey as of TLJ. Thats Disney and Story Group conformed Canon.

Ergo all Snoke has done is own a padawan and control Kylo with the use of his guards.

Trash tier, honestly.
The story group established how powerful Snoke is. Your insanity and bias is your own no one else’s. We see Rey’s power shown up against Luke as he loses his balance. She was nothing to Snoke. She also resisted Kylo when she first realized she had powers and was a noob you imbecile. She defeated an injured Kylo while she was a noob. She was nothing to Snoke after she received training. Your points are akin to a conspiracy theorists reinforcement bias truly grasping at straws.

Snoke was confirmed as more powerful than Kylo when Johnson explained Kylo’s need to attack when his guard was down. The film clearly shows this but your bias is too thick for the obvious to make its way through.

Snoke is too powerful to even be challenged in a fair fight. Honestly. Cry more.





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that is just how stupid serkis was being quanchi

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it makes no sense that he said that because he didnt know what he was talking about, we know he said it. the evidence supports me, take a hike over to comic versus where you came from.


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Originally posted by victreebelvictr
that is just how stupid serkis was being quanchi
Facts corroborate this power level since he was demonstrably greater than both Kylo and Rey unlike Luke.


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it makes no sense that he said that because he didnt know what he was talking about, we know he said it. the evidence supports me, take a hike over to comic versus where you came from.
Evidence supports me as does common sense and realistically from the standpoint of Disney and their let’s go bigger and badder not smaller and weaker in the trilogy films. It’s ok that Snoke is the top dog not Sidious. Let the hatred flow through you. I’m enjoying this.


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Snoke being more powerful than Kylo as of TLJ doesnt mean Kylo wasnt a threat to him (he obviously was given that he killed him).

Nor does it put Snoke above Maul or Dooku.

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Snoke being more powerful than Kylo as of TLJ doesnt mean Kylo wasnt a threat to him (he obviously was given that he killed him).

Nor does it put Snoke above Maul or Dooku.

that was stupid. snoke is far stronger than dooku and maul combined, but he just isnt as strong as sidious.


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Originally posted by quanchi112
Evidence supports me as does common sense and realistically from the standpoint of Disney and their let’s go bigger and badder not smaller and weaker in the trilogy films. It’s ok that Snoke is the top dog not Sidious. Let the hatred flow through you. I’m enjoying this.

no quanchi. common sense is looking at serkis's quote and seeing how it isn't common sense.


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Snoke being more powerful than Kylo as of TLJ doesnt mean Kylo wasnt a threat to him (he obviously was given that he killed him).

Nor does it put Snoke above Maul or Dooku.
He has to wait until his guard was down to attack him. He needed that opportunity but yes of course in Star Wars someone can kill you with a light saber especially if you aren’t prepared for it.

His showings already cement he’s well above either of those two in power. He dwarfed Rey’s power that scared Luke Skywalker. Neither Dooku or Maul was in the upper eschelon of force power.


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Originally posted by victreebelvictr
no quanchi. common sense is looking at serkis's quote and seeing how it isn't common sense.
He worked with the story group who crafted the character of Snoke. The details are still yet to be explored but come on Serkis is privy to this we just aren’t yet. The breadcrumbs already lead down this trail my dim witted enemy.


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"This book confirms that Snoke is not the only dark-side user older than Palpatine, but would it be a correct interpretation, after reading this novel, that Snoke had some relationship with the erstwhile Darth Sidious?

I don’t know. Snoke certainly had to know of Sidious’s existence — he was the most powerful being in the galaxy, after all — but exploring their relationship beyond that was something we decided was best left for other storytellers to tackle. If I were Snoke, though, I would have been very careful about attracting Sidious’s attention. To borrow a line from another beloved franchise, dark lords don’t generally share power."


Jason Fry states Palpatine was the most powerful being in the galaxy. If you say this is meant to mean say military might rather than personal power yet claim Serkis comment on Snoke having endless resources is Snokes personal power then That's double standards tbh.


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lol Quan you keep saying that Luke was afraid of Reys power. he was afraid of her POTENTIAL do you understand the difference between the two??

Do you think child Anakin could bust a squadron of driods just because his midichlorian count was high? No he had to be trained to use his power; same with Rey.

Snoke smacking her around is not a good feat at all; that'd be like Vader tossing ANH Luke around or Sidious toying with Anakin in TPM...

Its a joke feat bud and youre a joke for trying to make it seem like Snoke is all powerful because of it.

Remember Quan; context matters... your words.

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Yeah Rey was powerful but Luke even phrases it as "Raw strength" unless you really think Rey at that point in time can defeat the likes of Maul, Dooku, Vader, etc. Kylos greatest fear is not being stronger than Vader, why would that be his fear? Probably cause he isn't at that level to begin with. Snoke also wants Kylo to reach his full potential since according to the VD only a Skywalker is powerful enough to beat Luke.


Now, his best hype is knowing the secrets of the Force from the Unknown Regions that Palaptine wanted, however what this knowledge is we don't know. We just know it was used to help the First Order survive the "Dark Things" within the UR, though I'm certain it is something mundane such as being able to navigate thru the UR much better.


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lol Quan you keep saying that Luke was afraid of Reys power. he was afraid of her POTENTIAL do you understand the difference between the two??



Quan is just trolling. Hes butthurt because he knows Snoke was a wasted character with no major overall significance.

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Originally posted by The Merchant
"This book confirms that Snoke is not the only dark-side user older than Palpatine, but would it be a correct interpretation, after reading this novel, that Snoke had some relationship with the erstwhile Darth Sidious?

I don’t know. Snoke certainly had to know of Sidious’s existence — he was the most powerful being in the galaxy, after all — but exploring their relationship beyond that was something we decided was best left for other storytellers to tackle. If I were Snoke, though, I would have been very careful about attracting Sidious’s attention. To borrow a line from another beloved franchise, dark lords don’t generally share power."


Jason Fry states Palpatine was the most powerful being in the galaxy. If you say this is meant to mean say military might rather than personal power yet claim Serkis comment on Snoke having endless resources is Snokes personal power then That's double standards tbh.
Sidious has access to the empire at the time. He wasn’t going to get a one on one with him. Same reasons why Yoda’s only had one attempt. You have to bide your time and make your move count. Snoke took power. Sidious died to a one armed cyborg with no light saber at the time. Sidious had time to defend himself but instead cackled and screamed like a *****. Facts, kiddo.

Snoke was too powerful for Kylo to directly assault as proven by the director. Oh how the truth always sees the light of day.


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lol Quan you keep saying that Luke was afraid of Reys power. he was afraid of her POTENTIAL do you understand the difference between the two??

Do you think child Anakin could bust a squadron of driods just because his midichlorian count was high? No he had to be trained to use his power; same with Rey.

Snoke smacking her around is not a good feat at all; that'd be like Vader tossing ANH Luke around or Sidious toying with Anakin in TPM...

Its a joke feat bud and youre a joke for trying to make it seem like Snoke is all powerful because of it.

Remember Quan; context matters... your words.
His words matter. She clearly showed one on one her power matters as he lost his balance and was defenseless before Rey stopped. Facts matter.

I didn’t say she was as polished as could be technically but her power was insane and resisted Kylo’s without any training.

Snoke effortlessly toying with her is amazing since she had been trained by Luke who was defeated by her since she held the advantage and stopped. Ben Solo previously beat Luke as well.

Facts matter and your personal insults show you’re letting your emotions destroy you and reveal your frustration.

Snoke is the baddest guy in the galaxy. Undeniable.


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Yeah Rey was powerful but Luke even phrases it as "Raw strength" unless you really think Rey at that point in time can defeat the likes of Maul, Dooku, Vader, etc. Kylos greatest fear is not being stronger than Vader, why would that be his fear? Probably cause he isn't at that level to begin with. Snoke also wants Kylo to reach his full potential since according to the VD only a Skywalker is powerful enough to beat Luke.


Now, his best hype is knowing the secrets of the Force from the Unknown Regions that Palaptine wanted, however what this knowledge is we don't know. We just know it was used to help the First Order survive the "Dark Things" within the UR, though I'm certain it is something mundane such as being able to navigate thru the UR much better.
Misinterpeting the line in the vd intentionally or too simple to grasp the nuance. This is what Snoke told Ben to divide him to keep him focused but in the film he was going to just obliterate Luke from space. He just wanted him dead, kid. Luke was just some old loser hiding away and Snoke mocked his depression and negativity. He was going to have him annihilated. Snoke is the ruler he doesn’t need to go hunt this old hermit down. He manipulated Kylo into doing so as his apprentice.

I wish Star Wars debaters for the most part could interpret and think for themselves.


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