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samhain
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AstraZeneca is the one I got.


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What do you think about coronavirus vaccines? Should I be vaccinated, if so, which is the best?


They currently say you should get whichever one you are offered, as all 4 of them have good results. Additionally the differences may not be as clear as the studies for them can not be compared 1 to 1.

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^ Yeah theyre being compared the same way now and on a massive scale. And Turns out the AZ one is a lot better than originally thought.

Which is good, because Thats the one being sold across the globe at cost price.

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So my friend went to a restaurant by him, and they're requiring id because people aren't supposed to travel.

That's crazy.


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Texas and Mississippi governors have both decided to drop mask mandates and allow all businesses tob100% reopen.

Like is Texas trying to kill off their population?


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Why are Florida politicians and activist claiming Florida is doing a better job on rolling out vaccinations for blacks and hispanics compared to Florida?

https://www1.nyc.gov/site/doh/covid...a-vaccines.page


According to this, in New York City only 4 percent of blacks and hispanics are partially and fully vaccinated.

Florida has 6%, according to the very article blasting Florida leaders.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nb...amp/ncna1259204


P.S., New York had a "Pacific Islander" category under race. Never heard that used before.

Highest percentage of vaccinations at 16%, beats whites at 7%. Why the disparity for pacific islanders? smile


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Why are Florida politicians and activist claiming Florida is doing a better job on rolling out vaccinations for blacks and hispanics compared to Florida?

https://www1.nyc.gov/site/doh/covid...a-vaccines.page


According to this, in New York City only 4 percent of blacks and hispanics are partially and fully vaccinated.

Florida has 6%, according to the very article blasting Florida leaders.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nb...amp/ncna1259204


P.S., New York had a "Pacific Islander" category under race. Never heard that used before.

Highest percentage of vaccinations at 16%, beats whites at 7%. Why the disparity for pacific islanders? smile
Probably because the New York Pacific Islander demographic is an extremely small population around 50,000 to 60,000. So even if a handful get vaccinated as part of the standard rollout process for age and profession then they will have a much higher ratio compared to much larger ethnic populations.


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Texas and Mississippi governors have both decided to drop mask mandates and allow all businesses tob100% reopen.

Like is Texas trying to kill off their population?


It's likely going to go back to a shitshow in those states, not opening slowly in stages like other states are doing.

Greg Abbott is doing it to appease people and to help distract away from the power grid shitshow that just happened in TX. It will probably end up being a short term win for him.


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It's likely going to go back to a shitshow in those states, not opening slowly in stages like other states are doing.

Greg Abbott is doing it to appease people and to help distract away from the power grid shitshow that just happened in TX. It will probably end up being a short term win for him.
Oh yeah the "My Freedoms" crowd will love it.


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I got the first dose of the Pfizer vaccine today.


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I read The AZ one does give more side effects though.

And its happened to me as well. I get dry skin sometimes, but its flared up like crazy since my AZ jab (took me a while to work out its probably related).

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After Lifting Covid Restrictions, Gov. Greg Abbott Claims Undocumented Immigrants Are Spreading Virus In Texas

One day after Texas Gov. Greg Abbott (R) eliminated most of his state’s coronavirus restrictions, the governor claimed immigrants released into his state by federal authorities are helping to spread the virus. -snip



He's also the fool who opposed Covid testing for immigrants.

It's like he's aware that opening up his state fully and so quickly will likely have disastrous results and he is preemptively creating a bogeyman to then blame it on.


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After Lifting Covid Restrictions, Gov. Greg Abbott Claims Undocumented Immigrants Are Spreading Virus In Texas

One day after Texas Gov. Greg Abbott (R) eliminated most of his state’s coronavirus restrictions, the governor claimed immigrants released into his state by federal authorities are helping to spread the virus. -snip



He's also the fool who opposed Covid testing for immigrants.

It's like he's aware that opening up his state fully and so quickly will likely have disastrous results and he is preemptively creating a bogeyman to then blame it on.


He is only opening the state at all to appease the Trumpers who are upset of his handling of the energy situation there.


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How fast does it mutate?

Much slower than the seasonal flu.



Does it recur?

Yes, which is why people find it absurd to keep locked down until 2022. With a viable vaccine, in large quantities, not being available until Q3-ish 2021, this has people worried. The virus is not "biphasic" if that's what you meant. But like all of the seasonal flu issues, you'll have mutations that may vary enough that you won't have immunity from it and you'll get sick all over again. Just like Rhinovirus. Just like the various strains of H1N1, H3N2, etc.



Does it do permanent damage to our bodies (to a significant enough portion of the ones considered “not at risk”)?

No. And healthy individuals extremely rarely die from it. Estimates range from a large minority to a significant majority being asymptomatic. Of the ones who do get ill, half to a majority only experience mild symptoms. Of the ones who get severely ill, only 4% require hospitalization. Of the ones that require hospitalization, at the highest level of risk (age 85+), case fatality rate ranged from 10%-27%.

With a mortality rate at about the same as the seasonal flu but a higher R0, it's still not on track to kill as many people as the rhinovirus (common cold) kills in children, alone, each year. For context, about 2 million children die each year from the complications related to rhinovirus. The rhinovirus was discovered to have a higher mortality rate than even the flu. We do not have a vaccine for the rhinovirus. We do not shut the world down for the flu and cold season.



How long does the immunity last?

Any numbers would be an educated guess but since coronavirus mutates more slowly than the flu, the answer is "longer than the flu."



Is there a chance we can get reinfected again?

Answered previously with the biphasic point.



Is there a chance for the immune and asymptomatic to transmit the virus to their loved ones who are then vulnerable.

Yes, but only in a small window where an asymptomatic carrier "sheds" the virus. This window is about 14 days. If you were ill, about 3 days after you are symptom free.



To the rest of your point, the most effective and least "life-cost" method is to protect the elderly and vulnerable for 4-6 weeks but get everyone else to stay out and about as much as possible to reach heard immunity as quickly as possible. That's the suggestion of leading epidemiologists from Stanford.


https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10....3.28.20036715v3



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So you are saying like DDM you think this enormous extra spike in deaths is not being caused by COVID 19... laughing out loud
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He is only opening the state at all to appease the Trumpers who are upset of his handling of the energy situation there.


Yep, was noted earlier. A potentially dangerous distraction.


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Yep, was noted earlier. A potentially dangerous distraction.
Good to see you Rob! South Texas interestingly was where Trump made most inroads in the last election.

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Likewise!

Hope Northern Nigeria is treating you well and if it comes down between being beheaded or joining Boku Haram, just say "Allahu Akbar!" until they're convinced.


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Likewise!

Hope Northern Nigeria is treating you well and if it comes down between being beheaded or joining Boku Haram, just say "Allahu Akbar!" until they're convinced.
I keep getting delayed and sent back because of the situation tbh Rob, not something to talk about on forum. It's hairy as **** right now.

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