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dulobast25
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we all know james didn't like the script of t3 and are you sure those 2 prouced t1...i'm pretty sure it was gale anne hurd (camerons'wife @ the time) with hemdale films arnd ditributed by orion. Anyways i'm surprised james cameron neede help wtih anything.. if you see treminator 1 spedical edition it showa what james took out, and what he took out was the plot for t2.. it's goood it did take it out, but t2 is basiclly a rehash of what was removed from t1
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Jul 16th, 2003 07:44 PM |
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dulobast25
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t3 got crappy review from seasonedc critics and good review from people who were not really into t1 and t2, in general. People don't want to see movies from a different set of eyes, they want to see it from their eyes and that is what is happening here. Some like empty action like speed 1 and speed 2, some like sci fi action substantiated with a compelling story...after 12 years, we didn't get that from t3. And if we can extract james camerons' subconscious menaings and themes as laymen than sure johnathon could have... i kinda think he wanted to do it different to rpove a point and it was @ our expense.. and when it comes to sci fi James cameron is up there with george lucas and even on par in general with steven spielberg.. look how many hit james has had since t1, his seconf film but first feature film. All but the abyss did excellent.. and the abyss was a good movie.
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Jul 16th, 2003 08:08 PM |
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02blur
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Wow, guess I'm not really in to T1 and T2 since I liked T3. Guess thats why I come to this message board to talk about The Terminator movies. I'm never watching Terminator again. Thanks for setting me straight.
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Jul 16th, 2003 11:27 PM |
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CoCooN
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No problem...if you like just T3 that does not help to support the real terminator fans....because we dont like T3!
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Jul 17th, 2003 10:07 AM |
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CoCooN
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YES 10000%...the first name that appear after logo of CAROLCO in T2 is name MARIO KASSAR and ANDI VAJNA....they were producing T1, T2, T3...and that is not all....Andi Vajna helped James Cameron to make the first Terminator, and he very supported him. And Vajna is very good friend to James. On Cnn web site was interview with Vajna and he said, the last time he was speak with James, was when he called him to be a director of T3....but James wasn't interested in that!!!
PS. watch T2 and T1 again
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Jul 17th, 2003 10:18 AM |
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dulobast25
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evil 101 arnold is more menacing
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Jul 17th, 2003 11:23 AM |
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Korri
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dont like any of the films sorry
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Jul 17th, 2003 05:43 PM |
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JRatT12
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Don’t all you Terminator sci-fi fans find it kind of funny when these Now Generation of Sci-Fi fans come in and tell us they don’t like the terminators when in the Matrix series of movies only the first one was good but it was not even closer to being as good as the first two terminators and was barley as good as the third.
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Jul 17th, 2003 11:13 PM |
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green33
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shut up CoCoon you wierdo, you talk a load of jibberish dont you i just cant tell what your saying
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Jul 18th, 2003 12:23 PM |
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T2:A+++
T3:A+
T1:B
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Jul 18th, 2003 03:25 PM |
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fusion1500
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 TX KICKED BUTT! WAY TO GO!!!! we want MORE!!!!!
Don’t jump down my throat but the general Conesus seems to be that TX is not able to take TX 1000 on, and ‘they’ failed miserably portraying her as more powerful/inteligent.
I believe that the TX is definitely more intelligent then t1000 and they damn well pulled it off! That if I were left in a room with TX I know she WOULD eventually kill me and that waiting period just makes her all the more scary!! – cause she is smarter and will play human emotions for all they are worth. The intelligent humanist feel is ultimately what sets her apart. Even that cocky smile of hers!
TX had a killer killer instinct that NEVER left and hats off to the director and the cast and crew for working it! She was much more persistent then t1000 and the running scene showed that. T1000 eventually had to give up! Whereas in t3 running scene TX CAUGHT the car – and yup that is another defining moment.
Yeah t1000 got a hand to it – but lets be realistic TX looked like she had much more of a chance, and got further.. t1000 basically got up and walked away lol
The other way!
For all of us who enjoy the terminator movies they left the door wide open for more movies! And at the same time we enjoyed it!!
The director and creators of TX and the actress herself without a doubt created a terminator that had appeal, intelligence and the overall the means to out gun any other terminator!
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Jul 18th, 2003 04:20 PM |
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02blur
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Hell yah! Plus she could control other things also (cars, etc..) Could the T-1000 do that? Nooo! All he could do was make knives and stabbing weapons! She even had built in weapons on her arm! Could the T-1000 do that? Noooo! The TX could lick blood and tell who it was. Could the T-1000 do that? Noooo!
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Jul 18th, 2003 05:02 PM |
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dulobast25
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Sorry, put t-1000 in a room with tx.. the tx wouldn't last for 5 minutes. As soon as she tried to fire a shot, t-1000 would either forma an opening, or blend into the floor.. before she could react, he wouldform a blade from the floor penetrating her power cell. Please she certainlt did not convince anybody that she is more intellegent and t-100 conveyed his charm when he said, he's a nice looking boy.. do you mind if i keep this picture...i wouldn't worry about him.. thanks for your cooperation. C'mon t-1000 was a better infiltrator and when he took other forms, certainly took on their personality better than tx.. all she did was look @ people with an eerie look like she was high.. she would have been picked up by the police for the drug look in her eyes. Also, the t-100 was busy cutting carrots waiting for john connor saying i was beginning to worry...if you hurry i'll make beef stew...C'mon t-1000 can form @ woman as fine as tx @ any time and copying sarah is proof, the only reason anyone suspected t-100 is because the women were more bitchy than the actual women (sarah, and johns stepmother). Certainly the tx wasn't bitchy, just assertive. I'm sorry, the t-1000 in actuallity is simply for efffective as wouldn't have alsted as long as t-1000 did in in t2 and t-100 would have lasted longer than tx did in t-3. Every situation in t3 would have went in t-1000's favor had he been in her place. ALso, @ the end there is no way t-1000 could have gotton stuck under the helecopter and theres' no way he'd bee stuck under the blast door and there's no way arnie could grab him while holding open the blast door and the t-1000 would have survived the blast much better than the tx.... but like i said, wouldn't have been caught there in the first place. Tx suffred damage early on. The t-1000 didn't suffer anything until frozen solid, or in the regular edition until killed completely. There's no comparison. As far as being relentless, she ran after the car just like t-1000 would... but there was no cliff to jump off of onto the top of the car, c'mon, th t-1000 ran after a dirt bike! and the only reason he didn't continue is because he found a semi truck. In t3 she was too stupid to pursue arnold in the hearse in the semi truck right behind her...smarter? they say so, but proven in the movie? no. She should have detected the emf device.. especially if she is designed to control machinery. Overall, controlling machinery didn't help her mission much anyway! Frankly in t2, they had t-10000 hold back to give the t-800 a chance.. he could have stabbeda rnold thru the power cell with his arm during the fist fight ... but the director knoew fans would not like that....the t-1000 wasn't smarter than the t-800 either.. it hasn't been proven....remember when first he beat t-1000 to johns house... and kept johhn from going home because t-800 anticipated that the t-1000 would anticipate that move.(like chess) and when asked, he said.. I would.. meanwhile the t-1000 did wait just lik arnie knew he would. The t-1000 answered the phone and arnie outsmarted him by asking the dog's name and the t-1000 got outsmarted...then in special edition, t-100 goes out to look @ the dog'd collar just to drive the point home that he'd been had. The tx maybe is supposed to be all that but it isn't. Finally in the last scene of t1 because the dirctor was silly to make the ending scene just like t1, where legs are damaged so she has to remove them then crawls to get to jiohn....good thing rather than beign crushed under the door, arnie blew them both up, but if the tx had a pipe bomb place in her ribs and it blew her apart like in t1, and she went crwling (never could happen to t-1000) and tried to reach for sarah, she'd been crushed just like arnie and the liquid metal would have been helpless as it only is an apperance package. t-1000 fould have survived the blast and if in the hydraulic press, would have liduified and reformed out of the machine or it would have crushed nothing or he would have formed a long rod and killed sarah. rmrmber that if tx reached for the bomb, her arm would have been blown off too, so her cannon would have went bye bye. Verdict:
the terminators as currently shown have about equal intellegence and all have th capability of outsmarting eachother
as far as being lethal.. the t-1000 is the most lethal. Rlentless? the t-800
charming? the t-1000 is the most chraming. sexy (i n real life) the tx. She just isn't as scary as t-1000 and DEFINATELY not as ascart as t-101 in t1.
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Jul 18th, 2003 05:52 PM |
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Leobrn12
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Yeah I totally agree with duloblast25.
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Jul 18th, 2003 06:42 PM |
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JRatT12
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The T-1000’s strength was toned down sooo much in T2 the TX would have no chance. The TX did have some things that would help the T-1000 like the blood licking thing but the arm weapons are kind of pointless agents a T-1000 The flamethrower would have no effect and the Lighting think would just blow a hole in the T-1000 but It would get right back up. And still having a metal frame makes the TX kind of crape…
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Jul 18th, 2003 11:54 PM |
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Well as far as the blood licking thing, i think that was stupid, instead of touching the blood scan the dna, why did the TX "have" to lick it? Only living things have to lick to find the taste etc, a machine could meerly "scan" the blood sample, so i personally thought that part was dumb, 2ndly we have all critised on the TX saying the T1000 was far advanced, dudes do not forget how the tx got destroyed, in a pool of molten steel, excessive heat damanged its systems so bad it could not retain its shape shifting capabilty to escape etc. When arnie in T2 was lowered in, it took a few mins before his system shut down, meaning he could espcape if he wanted to etc. T-1000 liquid polymer outer shell got damaged much faster. TX has the skeleton frame with the liquid polymer for the outter skin, thus being able to change out characteristics, but the inner skeletal structure is much more durable, hence in T3 arnie had to hold her next to him while his power cell exploded. As much as i think t-1000 is cooler, its better as an infiltrator not as a combat soldier, TX however i think is a bit more capable as a soldier. However tihs is my opinon only 
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Jul 19th, 2003 09:05 AM |
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dulobast25
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c'mon blur, you know what I mean.. but it's true.. if you don't like either of the first films, then you are not truly a fan. I guess maybe i'm not either since i didn't really care for t3. Well i guess i was a true fan befor t3, not i'm really just a cameron and t1,t2 fan. T3 was ok, but was lacking something.
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Jul 19th, 2003 09:24 AM |
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dulobast25
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170 million, where did it go?
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Jul 19th, 2003 11:07 AM |
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skule
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arnie-30 mill, claire danes i would say - 8 mill? nick-9? kristianna-5? thats like waht 50 gone arleady? leaving 120 mill left, yeah were the hell did it go???
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Jul 19th, 2003 11:30 AM |
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Korri
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the matrix films r wat better than the Termenator films
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Jul 19th, 2003 01:24 PM |
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