Originally posted by MERCILOUS
So when's the last time you proved anything?If a third nuetral party read this thread who do you think they'd beleive, the guy who's already posted tons of scans including full fights, or the guy who just ask for proof but has never provided any himself?
For that matter, prove the fight even ever happened...or can you not?
Originally posted by jinzin
why? what's the point? I already gave you my reasoning for how and why spiderman won that fight...
and no one else has been able to neglect it because it's true....
this pretty much confirms my suspicions about you in that you have no idea for who you are arguing for and even far less idea about whom you are arguing against....
sure I COULD post more pictures which show me to be 100% correct and you to be nothing more than 100% incorrect AGAIN, as I have done sooooo many times in the past....but what is the point? anything I post you will either ignore or scoff as bad writing....
prime example: "spidey humiliated the ff"
Did I say something like that ? Would you mind quoting me ? I don't remember anymore. Fact is, if SM would be so stupid to fight the FF, he would be dead in a minute or so.
(Though he did throw Thing off a building not so long ago, because Thing was acting all tough hehehe).you say show proof....I don't need to...
Because you can't. it's obvious to me that you are nothing more or less than a spidey fanboy.....I'm sorry I don't like to simply lash that term out at just anybody....but like cresh said...if you honestly believe spiderman can beat firelord straight up as you have just claimed......
Well, aren't you one of the people who are basically saying that there is no such thing as crap writing ? That we have to accept everything we read (like for example a high jumping Wolverine ?)
If that's the case : SM beat Firelord pretty straight up. YOU ARE A FANBOY...and there is nothing more to say....I have nothing to prove to you....there are other members like themister who give great debates......and members like cordera who at least try their best....but you.......
Are you done ? well considering you've been debating against bats in the spiderman vs. bman thread and don't even know something as simple and fundemental as to WHY batman uses the bat as his symbol......
This is new. I am confused... when did I say something about his symbol ?
Whooah looks like I've been away too long....can't believe things have gotten so hot under the collar in here...
Anyway..Creshrock is obviously Captain JK...can definitely tell by the way he posts.....seems to have an excessive love for Jinzin😍 and excessive hate for Spider Man..
come on Cresh why don't you just admit it..
Originally posted by whobdamandog
Whooah looks like I've been away too long....can't believe things have gotten so hot under the collar in here...Anyway..Creshrock is obviously Captain JK...can definitely tell by the way he posts.....seems to have an excessive love for Jinzin😍 and excessive hate for Spider Man..
come on Cresh why don't you just admit it..
Yes welcome back, your lack of presence and humor here caused an imbalance, and I'm afraid we lost a valued teammate strawnilla.
<<<No, I never pointed any names, though it is quite obvious who has the superiority complex here. Stop trying to intimidate people, i've faced tougher all the time, unless you were aiming to Hulk Power, and still its easy to put that to people when you'll never meet them.>>>
superiority complex? that statment wasn't even in response to you... 🙄 and hell I've already made the offer to use up a weekend and drive out somewhere to face anyone that think's I'm a coward....
<<<You started the entire, "I'm too good for strawnilla", because Cresh influenced you into it. I admit you behaved much differently, until he arrived. Even still ignoring him,and tearing him apart on posts is a big difference, like you did on that Lady Deathstrike thread for no reason.>>>
influenced me? I was already considering ignoring straw and I actually attempted it a few times...I casually check out threads that catch my interest in the lady deathstrike thread he didn't know thing one about her but was totally convinced as always that no-one can take it to spiderman... I pointed out his error in logic...I didn't even attack him and even said that it was to help him see more about the character than what he didn't see before..it was hardly an attack and I even told him it was meant in no way of offense....where you got "jinzin's attacking straw"....I have no idea....
<<<No, again you assume things, you act like wolverine is a god or this or that, because of what some silly manual or this or that said(scorpion), but then you don't really explain why, I have said where I get my info, and pointed my link to the top of the page, it died. Seriosly Nataku came here and put up great points, you skip them, and I know he's brings great stuff all the time to the debate. Me, like many don't have a scanner to put up common knowledge. Again, i never said YOU picked on me, but you guys like to try the insult crap, when nothings being pointed out, or you guys follow me to other threads to bug me, when my conclusions are the same to others, and even have much better explanation. Clever word play, insults, and one sided scans don't do much when you say the same thing over and over. Explain something.>>>
I don't readily explain why?.... bullshit...total and utter bullshit...I've explained shit and explained shit and explained it some more....I don't show one sided scans...I show entire fights from beginning to end...including the one's in which the characters I'm rooting for are loosing.....if you're claiming that what marvel produced is one sided....well that's must be because marvel doesn't feel the same way that you do about THIER characters...truley though...I've used comic book feats, quotes, consistancy vs. inconsistancy, stats, real world logic, and common sense.....if you still don't think I've readily explained myself you never will it's that simple.... when reffering to "you guys" I did assume me because you have made it a consistant point in which you are defending yourself against me cresh and merc.... but if you didn't mean me hulk power certainly did....
<<<No I don't because its over comic books, and this is exactly what I mean, YOU are the type that ttakes these TOO seriously and takes the fun out of it. Who was this aimed at, I wanted you guys to calm down. Don't think I'm scared of you at all, the very notion of its ridiculous, sit at homeand continue to try to scare others, you show how much uncreditable you are right now, you ain't beating me up anytime period.>>>
my frustration with members on th board hardly has anything to do with my credibility in this thread especially when I cite almost every source of valued information that I bring to the table....most other people on this thread don't do they have more credibility than me?
and you missed the point...I wasn't trying to "scare" anyone...I'm defending my own honor...I've been through too much....I've tested myself too many times, against too overwhelming of odds...I've put myself through too much pain, too much torment, and too much punishment, on too many occasions to let someone that doesn't even know one thing about me to call me the likes of a coward...I refuse to let someone sit there and accuse me of being something I'm not....
as far as beating you up goes...that's debeatable....
<<<Its funny that me and mister bring up many of the same points, and have them in similar styles, and they get skipped,and people come right to mine. He already told me I brought the winning points to many discussions very early in my arrival. Whiney Kids? You saying that makes you that much more of a kid yourself. Pathetic people calling others "kids" online and insulting them, makes the country I fought for look bad, so shut it. Cresh is better than you, and he never really made a point, imagine how cute that is, nothing I put up several times were countered because some of you guys know nothing, about the real world. "I'm too good for anyone but a few people, shows the arrogance I've seen many times, and you seem just an irritant at this point. You think we suck oh so much, don't respond, I can get to those who put thought into thier posts, and are polite, while thinking new things up. Once you don't respond to us for a while, you'll eventually just be off, because noone wil really care, you aren't all that, man get over yourself.>>>
it's funny how a ton of people like to skip my points entirely.....
I call you whiney because when you find yourself backed in acorner the bset thing you can produce as a counter argument..is "stop making him/her out to be some sort of god"...when I'm using things that have been displayed and proven to support my argument....it's ridiculous to think otherwise....give me an example of a point in this thread that I just made up....and when the **** did I say I was "all that"? I ignore people who are so narrow minded that they don't consider counter points whatsoever....it's that simple....
<<<Again, you are stepping out of line for whom? I wrote a calm down speech, you sound like an angry 14 year old, what are you going to do blow your brains out, over a comic debate? You sound that more ridiculous for every year that has been tallied up in your life. I'm a soldier and don't back down, you guys should know that by now. I've been arguing harder than noone's business, and have faced the odds well ever since my arrival, you guys cant keep up, so you want to put me down? Bleh!! I kick ass just like on several other forums here, the difference is some just don't see when to quit, and start bullshit like this because they take their comics too seriously, whatever. i don't feel like talking about this rubbish anymore, since you want to throw me in your line of fire. >>>
why would I blow my brains out over you idiots? i might go crazy trying to open people's narrow minded views but blow my brains out? yeah that'll happen 🙄 you're a soldier..... good for you... I don't care....I don't back down either......so what? again I didn't get frustrated with the comics...my anger stemed from someone accusing me of something that I'm clearly not...and trying to start something with me...obviously comic books are not worth that much frustration .....my honor, my character, the pride for what I wish to be called (which is not a ****in coward....) is worth it to me however.
it's more easily believeable that godzilla would squash him or swat him a mile into the sky before he ever got the chance...I think that yeah if wolverine got in close quarters with the head he would have a decent chance.....but overall he doesn't..it's much more likely he'll die first...okay maybe not die..but surely find himself outside the stratusphere.
Based on the description by others of Godzilla, his internals are like a furnace and Wolverine isn't going to survive this as he's a close combatant. This is just the same as Wolverine against some of the Sentinels where he cannot attack them at the chestal cavity due to their defenses once he passes the outer shell.
spiderman:
stronger
more agile
less experienced
young,
talks too much when fighting
has had a hard time fighting humans like the punisher
does not have the guts to kill anyone.
wolverine:
better fighter
more experienced
more durable
stronger will
heals even faster when he's feral
almost defeated the hulk as the horseman "death"
winner: the scales are tipping towards the wolverine
Originally posted by jinzinHence why I gave up trying to reason with him.
if you still don't think I've readily explained myself you never will it's that simple....
It's something he's accused me of for a long time. He says I don't answer questions. To which I tell him that I don't answer questions the way he wants.
Which is quite akin to why I stopped responding to Straw. Both Cordera and Straw completely ignore what I say, So I've opted to return the favor and completely ignore them.
And for some reason using their own tactics against them like this has made me a bully and a coward. *shrugs* And then somehow you got lumped in with me.
Originally posted by jinzin
superiority complex? that statment wasn't even in response to you... 🙄 and hell I've already made the offer to use up a weekend and drive out somewhere to face anyone that think's I'm a coward....
Yea, but you talked to me. Ladies and gentlemen, lets gather all people from all over the world, and of all ages, from this forum to prove their prowress against jinzin, who is willing to drive and prove himself on a, wait for it................... comic forum.lol
Originally posted by jinzin
influenced me? I was already considering ignoring straw and I actually attempted it a few times...I casually check out threads that catch my interest in the lady deathstrike thread he didn't know thing one about her but was totally convinced as always that no-one can take it to spiderman... I pointed out his error in logic...I didn't even attack him and even said that it was to help him see more about the character than what he didn't see before..it was hardly an attack and I even told him it was meant in no way of offense....where you got "jinzin's attacking straw"....I have no idea....
Yea, whatever, he asked a question on that thread, you just went out on him. He told me to read it and I did, you jumped over him, but cater to other debators ridiculous notions. He asked about stats, and you lashed on him, funny because you thought spidey would win. I usually ignore your posts in arguments you don't really post in and, try to make no point, just to irritate me and I shrug it off. And don't say you haven't insulted him, i have many quotes of him showing he didn't like it. To make fun of one who has no interest in going to that level seems petty.
Originally posted by jinzin
I don't readily explain why?.... bullshit...total and utter bullshit...I've explained shit and explained shit and explained it some more....I don't show one sided scans...I show entire fights from beginning to end...including the one's in which the characters I'm rooting for are loosing.....if you're claiming that what marvel produced is one sided....well that's must be because marvel doesn't feel the same way that you do about THIER characters...truley though...I've used comic book feats, quotes, consistancy vs. inconsistancy, stats, real world logic, and common sense.....if you still don't think I've readily explained myself you never will it's that simple.... when reffering to "you guys" I did assume me because you have made it a consistant point in which you are defending yourself against me cresh and merc.... but if you didn't mean me hulk power certainly did....
I give you that, you are the most credible on your side, by far. But you seem to forget that everyone can't scan things up on the point of a whim. Regardless you did show my web in the mouth idea, and you do show many scans, but a lot of them are one pic with no explanation in the circumstances before and after, leaving the illusion that you are leaving out points to strengthen your argumentthe beginning.
Don't get me started on this, i've used said points of pressure and the applications of such, I've used the proificiency types of weapons, and damage to the particular character. I've used the comic points, and the similarities and difference to the two. I've used logic, and even explained it, and definitely sense, but if you used that you would spot bs. in characters. In fact I brought many points that weren't here until I came and saw things differently. I already said you were great, just had a bad attitude, and wiht that you never win regardless.
Originally posted by jinzin
my frustration with members on th board hardly has anything to do with my credibility in this thread especially when I cite almost every source of valued information that I bring to the table....most other people on this thread don't do they have more credibility than me?
and you missed the point...I wasn't trying to "scare" anyone...I'm defending my own honor...I've been through too much....I've tested myself too many times, against too overwhelming of odds...I've put myself through too much pain, too much torment, and too much punishment, on too many occasions to let someone that doesn't even know one thing about me to call me the likes of a coward...I refuse to let someone sit there and accuse me of being something I'm not....
as far as beating you up goes...that's debeatable....
Blah, blah, blah, whatever. I've been in many competitions and such my entire life, and there is always that person who wants to win at all costs. You are one of them.
Overwhelming odds? Please, I'm the only one who has the tenacity and strong willed mind to put up with this three on one for hours on end. I have had enough pain, duress, irritation, to let a person who thinks they can run another place and tell me what to do for that to happen (not saying that its you)' I've put up with clever word use, laughed off insults,and took the trash, the point is if you are mature and didn't think you were a coward, why jump to the bait for ammunition. Why get riled up on a person you've hardly debated with?
Funny you cant apply real logic from the comic world of fighting, you taking me own would be ''COMICAL", there is no pic, cis, or ways to make money, there's no bail outs and only one life, and I'm not making you guys look dumb explaining points of fights again.
Originally posted by jinzin
it's funny how a ton of people like to skip my points entirely.....
I call you whiney because when you find yourself backed in acorner the bset thing you can produce as a counter argument..is "stop making him/her out to be some sort of god"...when I'm using things that have been displayed and proven to support my argument....it's ridiculous to think otherwise....give me an example of a point in this thread that I just made up....and when the **** did I say I was "all that"? I ignore people who are so narrow minded that they don't consider counter points whatsoever....it's that simple....
Closeminded, heh, I'm perhaps the most openminded here. In fact I think of things differently than anyone I know, but I knwo some close minded people. You give me an inch I try to go a mile, its the opposite for some of you. Why I remember saying spidey could use a wall, all I got was " Who said there was a wall?", straight from you. Thats closed minded
You guys always go with the spidey isn't a god, excuse and when I ask for a counter point all I get is fallacy and some bs, expecially after maintaining points that wolverine is immune to all of spidey's damage makes him seem like a god.
Originally posted by jinzin
why would I blow my brains out over you idiots? i might go crazy trying to open people's narrow minded views but blow my brains out? yeah that'll happen 🙄 you're a soldier..... good for you... I don't care....I don't back down either......so what? again I didn't get frustrated with the comics...my anger stemed from someone accusing me of something that I'm clearly not...and trying to start something with me...obviously comic books are not worth that much frustration .....my honor, my character, the pride for what I wish to be called (which is not a ****in coward....) is worth it to me however.
I'm glad you decided not to go through with it, fighting me would have been suicide.
Again with the condescending nature. If we are idiots then don't respond, the forum wont miss a person with a bad attitude who lights up the room AFTER they leave. I don't think you are that bad at a guy, you just are suspect to pettiness and meaness, if you see a sleep smiley at the end of all, it means you were right about everything, but at the cost of what.
Originally posted by Creshosk
Hence why I gave up trying to reason with him.It's something he's accused me of for a long time. He says I don't answer questions. To which I tell him that I don't answer questions the way he wants.
Which is quite akin to why I stopped responding to Straw. Both Cordera and Straw completely ignore what I say, So I've opted to return the favor and completely ignore them.
And for some reason using their own tactics against them like this has made me a bully and a coward. *shrugs* And then somehow you got lumped in with me.
Cute you get closer and closer to a paragraph yet.
You started bitching about responding, because you assumed I wasn't talking to you anymore, I can pull that quote up. Makes an A-S-S out of you know the rest.
I never said anything about you picking on me, i actually enjoy a few jabs, you should realise that by now. My problem was with straw who didn't like it and wasn't playing on your terms, yet you kept on like he had no right here........
Look at the slew of posts me and merc put up this morning. We answered each other's questions, but not until we mentioned something wrong with the previous explanation, and we're still not done yet. We had fun and thats what matters.
Originally posted by Creshosk
Hence why I gave up trying to reason with him.It's something he's accused me of for a long time. He says I don't answer questions. To which I tell him that I don't answer questions the way he wants.
Which is quite akin to why I stopped responding to Straw. Both Cordera and Straw completely ignore what I say, So I've opted to return the favor and completely ignore them.
And for some reason using their own tactics against them like this has made me a bully and a coward. *shrugs* And then somehow you got lumped in with me.
this is also cute, considering jinzin gave a hearty lol, when whobdamandog or who kid, said that you don't get around to answering questions, and that you resemble Cap. Jk, its hard to know who you can trust, but hey if you feel bad there's a shoulder to cry on.
Originally posted by EvilCap America
All im doing is repeating the info ive gotten once i foolishly suggested that Wolbverine had lower speed than Spidey.Obviously i was proven wrong and wolverine could hit the Flash if he wanted too.Surely he has never been dropped by attacks by normal humans either [all those examples he was faking most likely] and a guy 20X stronger than a normal human shouldnt be able to do the same thing.Heck even the Hulk couldnt hurt him and THATS TOTALLY not the product of writers bending over backwards for the fanboys i mean this guy has a 100% 1 shot win recorde vs Lobo with his bone claws HES THAT STRONGAndamantium Wolverine>Bone claw Wolverine>Lobo>Superman>Most Class 100 strength MU Heroes>Spiderman
I mean its not like this entire pro-wolverine argument has been tainted by his most insane badly written moments or something because if it WAS Spidermans would count too and not be dismissed even if it was equally BS
This is the perhaps most accurate and funniest post yet.