Wolverine vs. Spider-Man

Started by Creshosk1,019 pages

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Even so wolveirne can't break out,
Of handcuffs?

Why? Because he's Wolverine?

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
much less webbing,
Not without claws. I can rotate my wrists so where the claws would be touch where the handcuffs would be.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
I'll be back I need to select people for our new "OUr team vs. you" in the game forum, I need to send invitations to see who is knowledgeable enough.
Alright. I hope to see it. . though I'll probably just fun around in it. . cause you make really good teams.

Originally posted by Creshosk
It doesn't matter if they are inconsistant. What's the point of even mentioning that? Each and everyone of his encounters with spiderman have been 100% consistant.

And now the mask falls off.

I wonder, how it can be explained that in one comic Wolverine takes Spider-Mans punches while smiling, and in another comic, Spider-Man only needs three or so punches to make Wolverine almost beg to stop hurting him.

Oh yeah, if like you said "everyone of his encounters with spiderman have been 100 % consistant", than Spider-Man can again punch away Wolverine with one hand, like he did in Secret Wars.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
So, you think, using the picture that I posted, that Wolverine could escape?
Here we go again. . .

YEs, beacuse he has.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
If so, how?
With his claws, because that what he did, Self damaging yes, but he heals from it. . .

Yes because he has, self damaging yes because he heals from it. Yes because he has, self damaging yes because he heals from it.Yes because he has, self damaging yes because he heals from it.Yes because he has, self damaging yes because he heals from it.

Whoops, I started looping without the other side. . .

Originally posted by who?-kid
And now the mask falls off.

I wonder, how it can be explained that in one comic Wolverine takes Spider-Mans punches while smiling, and in another comic, Spider-Man only needs three or so punches to make Wolverine almost beg to stop hurting him.

Oh yeah, if like you said "everyone of his encounters with spiderman have been 100 % consistant", than Spider-Man can again punch away Wolverine with one hand, like he did in Secret Wars.

Stop picking on him....

He can't break out because he has not the leverage,which basically makes his strength less effective. Spiderman however has the strength.

Originally posted by who?-kid
And now the mask falls off.
I'm only responding to this because I saw it in cordellia's post. . .

Originally posted by who?-kid
I wonder, how it can be explained that in one comic Wolverine takes Spider-Mans punches while smiling, and in another comic, Spider-Man only needs three or so punches to make Wolverine almost beg to stop hurting him.
Because that's your take on the matter. Plain and simple.

I already explained how it was an inaccurate way to interprete things.

Originally posted by who?-kid
Oh yeah, if like you said "everyone of his encounters with spiderman have been 100 % consistant", than Spider-Man can again punch away Wolverine with one hand, like he did in Secret Wars.
Sorry, wasn't counting blatent PIS/CIS. My bad.

Originally posted by who?-kid
And now the mask falls off.

I wonder, how it can be explained that in one comic Wolverine takes Spider-Mans punches while smiling, and in another comic, Spider-Man only needs three or so punches to make Wolverine almost beg to stop hurting him.

Oh yeah, if like you said "everyone of his encounters with spiderman have been 100 % consistant", than Spider-Man can again punch away Wolverine with one hand, like he did in Secret Wars.


100% consistency???? maybe in his late-night steamy wolvie fantasies...

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
He can't break out because he has not the leverage,which basically makes his strength less effective. Spiderman however has the strength.
He's nearly 1 and a half times the strength needed. even with a decrease you don't think he'd be able to do it?

Originally posted by Zahit
100% consistency???? maybe in his late-night steamy wolvie fantasies...
I hope you're not taking it out of context. . .

Not 100%?

Show me where Spiderman knocked out Wolverine. Just once.

Originally posted by Creshosk
He's nearly 1 and a half times the strength needed. even with a decrease you don't think he'd be able to do it?

I told you , I lift 300 and cannot gather the leverage to break good rope, if my hands are binded tightly with my wrists up. I would be down.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
I told you , I lift 300 and cannot gather the leverage to break good rope, if my hands are binded tightly with my wrists up. I would be down.
Think about that.

Rope is 300 req I think.
You are 300.

With the leverage decrease, you can't do it.

Wolvie is 800 something pounds.
Handcuffs are 500

With the leverage decrease. . .

Not quite the same out come. Unless that rope is decreasing you to where you shouldn't beable to even MOVE your hands at all, by taking out 300 pounds. . .

There are ropes that is tied correctly dont break under tons and tons of weight.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Think about that.

Rope is 300 req I think.
You are 300.

With the leverage decrease, you can't do it.

Wolvie is 800 something pounds.
Handcuffs are 500

With the leverage decrease. . .

Not quite the same out come. Unless that rope is decreasing you to where you shouldn't beable to even MOVE your hands at all, by taking out 300 pounds. . .

The leverage is near terminal, its worse than having little room to do something, you have PRACTICALLY none here, wolverine strength is decreased drastically, unless his wrists can do some untieing.

Well this has gotten to be a very very entertaining thread but I have to point out a few things that have gotten lost amidst the slew of opinions that are detracting from the FACTS.

Fact #1 In order for Spider-man to lose his environmental advantage then this battle Must take place in a desert or a field or some place where there are no walls of any sort for him to crawl. If not he has an environmental advantage even in a domed arena.

Fact #2 Spider-man has ranged capabilities and Wolverine does not. With that being said Spidey can force Wolverine into defending himself by evading strands of webbing by either dodging or leaping. Also remember that Spider-man is an excellent tactician, has a superb aim, and has two web shooters to work with.

Fact #3 The thread is not 'Spider-man (with enhancements) vs Wolverine' therefore it is assumed that we are talking about Logan at his best with his trademark indestructable bones vs Peter Parker at his best and with his trademark web-shooters. If need be I'll start a new thread that specifies his use of the weapons that he has used since his origin. ( Is that really neccesary?)

Fact #4 Spider- man's manueverability is superior to Wolverines. He does not tire quickly and he does not smoke two packs a day. Why people think that he will exhaust as quickly as a middle aged man is unknown. his physiology is highly superior to that of Batman's and Captain America's. Fighting someone who has no ranged abilities to force his movement and speed and strength that are not superhuman will not exhaust him quickly

Fact #5 Wolverine can cut the webbing but that is his only option of dealing with it. It does not disentegrate for an hour and cannot be torn by a character that can not bench two tons. Wolverine can not bench one ton and therefore cannot free himself from being cocooned by the webbing.

Fact#6 Wolverine's offensive options are limited to h2h combat and his ability to jump quickly towards his opponent to engage in h2h combat. The fact that he is limited to ground based offensive tactics means that he MUST get close to go on the offense.

Fact#7When fighting an opponent with a ranged weapon that does not damage but hinders an opponents movement, getting close all but ensures that Wolverine will recieve copious amounts of webbing to the body and his movement WILL be hindered even if for a short while. Spider-man's aim with the webbing is extremely accurate at a great distance and he can hit small, quick moving targets from afar. Wolverine is not a small target.

Fact#8 Being hindered in ANY way by the webbing is as fatal for Wolverine as getting stabbed would be fatal for Spider-man. Slowing to cut webbing from his legs, eyes, mouth, or torso will make the option of completely cocooning Wolverine open to Spider-man, for Wolverine can not ignore having any of the aforementioned areas bound with even a small amount of webbing, especially the legs and face.

Fact #9 Even in an arena there is a far greater chance that Wolverine ( Who only has ground based attacks) is more continously open to being struck by webbing than Spider-man is open to being struck by Wolverines claws. More often than not Wolverine would eventually be cocooned.

Fact #10 Wolverine does not have sufficient strength to escape being cocooned and would be helpless encased completely in webbing. Spider-man wouldn't do it but he would have the option of casually wringing Wolverines neck, killing him.
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Those are the facts and they are based solely on what each character is capable of.

Originally posted by The MISTER
Well this has gotten to be a very very entertaining thread but I have to point out a few things that have gotten lost amidst the slew of opinions that are detracting from the FACTS.

Fact #1 In order for Spider-man to lose his environmental advantage then this battle Must take place in a desert or a field or some place where there are no walls of any sort for him to crawl. If not he has an environmental advantage even in a domed arena.

Fact #2 Spider-man has ranged capabilities and Wolverine does not. With that being said Spidey can force Wolverine into defending himself by evading strands of webbing by either dodging or leaping. Also remember that Spider-man is an excellent tactician, has a superb aim, and has two web shooters to work with.

Fact #3 The thread is not 'Spider-man (with enhancements) vs Wolverine' therefore it is assumed that we are talking about Logan at his best with his trademark indestructable bones vs Peter Parker at his best and with his trademark web-shooters. If need be I'll start a new thread that specifies his use of the weapons that he has used since his origin. ( Is that really neccesary?)

Fact #4 Spider- man's manueverability is superior to Wolverines. He does not tire quickly and he does not smoke two packs a day. Why people think that he will exhaust as quickly as a middle aged man is unknown. his physiology is highly superior to that of Batman's and Captain America's. Fighting someone who has no ranged abilities to force his movement and speed and strength that are not superhuman will not exhaust him quickly

Fact #5 Wolverine can cut the webbing but that is his only option of dealing with it. It does not disentegrate for an hour and cannot be torn by a character that can not bench two tons. Wolverine can not bench one ton and therefore cannot free himself from being cocooned by the webbing.

Fact#6 Wolverine's offensive options are limited to h2h combat and his ability to jump quickly towards his opponent to engage in h2h combat. The fact that he is limited to ground based offensive tactics means that he MUST get close to go on the offense.

Fact#7When fighting an opponent with a ranged weapon that does not damage but hinders an opponents movement, getting close all but ensures that Wolverine will recieve copious amounts of webbing to the body and his movement WILL be hindered even if for a short while. Spider-man's aim with the webbing is extremely accurate at a great distance and he can hit small, quick moving targets from afar. Wolverine is not a small target.

Fact#8 Being hindered in ANY way by the webbing is as fatal for Wolverine as getting stabbed would be fatal for Spider-man. Slowing to cut webbing from his legs, eyes, mouth, or torso will make the option of completely cocooning Wolverine open to Spider-man, for Wolverine can not ignore having any of the aforementioned areas bound with even a small amount of webbing, especially the legs and face.

Fact #9 Even in an arena there is a far greater chance that Wolverine ( Who only has ground based attacks) is more continously open to being struck by webbing than Spider-man is open to being struck by Wolverines claws. More often than not Wolverine would eventually be cocooned.

Fact #10 Wolverine does not have sufficient strength to escape being cocooned and would be helpless encased completely in webbing. Spider-man wouldn't do it but he would have the option of casually wringing Wolverines neck, killing him.
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Those are the facts and they are based solely on what each character is capable of.

Great post! I'm not even surprised anymore.

That sums it up fine.... 😮‍💨

Originally posted by Creshosk
Because that's your take on the matter. Plain and simple.

Okay, fair enough. So why don't you show me where I am wrong ?

Or are you gonna hide, and avoid the question, behind your Ignore Button ?

I already explained how it was an inaccurate way to interprete things.

What's there to interprete ?
Sorry, wasn't counting blatent PIS/CIS. My bad.

Oh now I see. You are the first to say that when it happened, it must be true and we all must accept it, but when in a comic Wolverine is humiliated by Spider-Man, that's all of a sudden PIS/CIS.

Either you accept there's such a thing as crap writing, and "out-of-character", or you don't !

Make up your mind.

Originally posted by The MISTER
Well this has gotten to be a very very entertaining thread but I have to point out a few things that have gotten lost amidst the slew of opinions that are detracting from the FACTS.

Fact #1 In order for Spider-man to lose his environmental advantage then this battle Must take place in a desert or a field or some place where there are no walls of any sort for him to crawl. If not he has an environmental advantage even in a domed arena.

Fact #2 Spider-man has ranged capabilities and Wolverine does not. With that being said Spidey can force Wolverine into defending himself by evading strands of webbing by either dodging or leaping. Also remember that Spider-man is an excellent tactician, has a superb aim, and has two web shooters to work with.

Fact #3 The thread is not 'Spider-man (with enhancements) vs Wolverine' therefore it is assumed that we are talking about Logan at his best with his trademark indestructable bones vs Peter Parker at his best and with his trademark web-shooters. If need be I'll start a new thread that specifies his use of the weapons that he has used since his origin. ( Is that really neccesary?)

Fact #4 Spider- man's manueverability is superior to Wolverines. He does not tire quickly and he does not smoke two packs a day. Why people think that he will exhaust as quickly as a middle aged man is unknown. his physiology is highly superior to that of Batman's and Captain America's. Fighting someone who has no ranged abilities to force his movement and speed and strength that are not superhuman will not exhaust him quickly

Fact #5 Wolverine can cut the webbing but that is his only option of dealing with it. It does not disentegrate for an hour and cannot be torn by a character that can not bench two tons. Wolverine can not bench one ton and therefore cannot free himself from being cocooned by the webbing.

Fact#6 Wolverine's offensive options are limited to h2h combat and his ability to jump quickly towards his opponent to engage in h2h combat. The fact that he is limited to ground based offensive tactics means that he MUST get close to go on the offense.

Fact#7When fighting an opponent with a ranged weapon that does not damage but hinders an opponents movement, getting close all but ensures that Wolverine will recieve copious amounts of webbing to the body and his movement WILL be hindered even if for a short while. Spider-man's aim with the webbing is extremely accurate at a great distance and he can hit small, quick moving targets from afar. Wolverine is not a small target.

Fact#8 Being hindered in ANY way by the webbing is as fatal for Wolverine as getting stabbed would be fatal for Spider-man. Slowing to cut webbing from his legs, eyes, mouth, or torso will make the option of completely cocooning Wolverine open to Spider-man, for Wolverine can not ignore having any of the aforementioned areas bound with even a small amount of webbing, especially the legs and face.

Fact #9 Even in an arena there is a far greater chance that Wolverine ( Who only has ground based attacks) is more continously open to being struck by webbing than Spider-man is open to being struck by Wolverines claws. More often than not Wolverine would eventually be cocooned.

Fact #10 Wolverine does not have sufficient strength to escape being cocooned and would be helpless encased completely in webbing. Spider-man wouldn't do it but he would have the option of casually wringing Wolverines neck, killing him.
____________________________________________________________
Those are the facts and they are based solely on what each character is capable of.

I couldn't agree more

Originally posted by The MISTER
Fact #3 The thread is not 'Spider-man (with enhancements) vs Wolverine' therefore it is assumed that we are talking about Logan at his best with his trademark indestructable bones vs Peter Parker at his best and with his trademark web-shooters. If need be I'll start a new thread that specifies his use of the weapons that he has used since his origin. ( Is that really neccesary?)
It doesn't need to be Spiderman(with enhancments)

IT would need to be "classic" spiderman. Since the current one is 15 tons, organic webbing, talk to bugs.

Originally posted by The MISTER
Fact #4 Spider- man's manueverability is superior to Wolverines. He does not tire quickly and he does not smoke two packs a day. Why people think that he will exhaust as quickly as a middle aged man is unknown.
Cute touch of fanboyism, labeling wolverine as a "middle aged man". And discarding his healing factor.

Does spiderman have a healing factor?

Ended here because you don't seem to have a strong graps as to what a "fact" is as opposed to an opinion.

Spider-Man has a healing factor.

Good post MISTER....

Originally posted by Creshosk
It doesn't need to be Spiderman(with enhancments)

IT would need to be "classic" spiderman. Since the current one is 15 tons, organic webbing, talk to bugs.

Cute touch of fanboyism, labeling wolverine as a "middle aged man". And discarding his healing factor.

Does spiderman have a healing factor?

Ended here because you don't seem to have a strong graps as to what a "fact" is as opposed to an opinion.


He is saying a normal middle aged man.