Wolverine vs. Spider-Man

Originally posted by jinzin
so why are you getting on me about OTHER GUYS thathave attacked you?

I've been saying that you don't follow trains of thought well cause you don't (truley I seriously am not trying to offend you here but you seriously go off on tangents that just leave me shaking my head cause they don't coorilate with the point at hand), again, I'm not trying to offend you here..but I've seen this over and over from you i just got to the point where I felt it neeeded to be addressed.

You've done it too.

Trains of thought I follow fine, but I don't agree with your thinking,and "just accept it".

The same could be said for you.
I've explained proificiency and other things right out the ass like noone else, and it gets brought up again, "batman has gadgets, blah."

I think fine...

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
But you are missing my point, ryu's training has been enabling him to perform superhuman feats alone, logans is just earthly stuff.

If spiderman didn'tkill, that is harder than killing, considering he doesn't want to fight, and logan does.

that doesn't make sense it's both earthly training...ryu's just adapted it to make him compete at a superhuman level...wolverine's adapted it to make him kick ass more than he already did....

but I gave you two prime marvel examples since I figured the ryu one wouldn't work for you...

Originally posted by Logan 87
Logan been alive longer than Spidey and doing more hero work like the world wars and what not. Wolverine also trained in Japan.

In other threads When Spidey is put against other people stronger than him i hear people(not you) say that oh it doesnt matter if hes stronger spidey has more skills and fought stronger people in the comics.

Well the same goes for Logan. Strength aint everything.

Logan has not done more hero work.

peter hardly uses his strength.

Logan, isn't just outstrengthend, he's outsmarted, outmaneuverd, outdodged, and outranged.

Soo many shortcomings, I don't see a little healing factor warranting a higher win.

Peter's second rate villans are bigger threats.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
You've done it too.

Trains of thought I follow fine, but I don't agree with your thinking,and "just accept it".

The same could be said for you.
I've explained proificiency and other things right out the ass like noone else, and it gets brought up again, "batman has gadgets, blah."

I think fine...

I truley disagree.....

Originally posted by jinzin
that doesn't make sense it's both earthly training...ryu's just adapted it to make him compete at a superhuman level...wolverine's adapted it to make him kick ass more than he already did....

but I gave you two prime marvel examples since I figured the ryu one wouldn't work for you...

Can you beat up a polar bear, with technique.

Logan doesn't use that much training, and he doesn't really need to though.

Originally posted by jinzin
I truley disagree.....

Then why do you say it.

I feel your spelling is bad, but I don't have to post it, that makes me no more correct than you.

If we don't have anything nice to say....

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Logan has not done more hero work.

peter hardly uses his strength.

Logan, isn't just outstrengthend, he's outsmarted, outmaneuverd, outdodged, and outranged.

Soo many shortcomings, I don't see a little healing factor warranting a higher win.

Peter's second rate villans are bigger threats.

Yeah ok thats why Spiderman said wolverine is far the best person he ever faced.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Logan has not done more hero work.

peter hardly uses his strength.

Logan, isn't just outstrengthend, he's outsmarted, outmaneuverd, outdodged, and outranged.

Soo many shortcomings, I don't see a little healing factor warranting a higher win.

Peter's second rate villans are bigger threats.

hero work-saving people...

wolverine's work- hurting/killing people....he's done A LOT more...

strength nor bookworm intelligence overtake higher level durability and superior strategic intelligence....

outmaneuvered okay, but for how long? outdodged, again how long?
outranged, I agree with you completely, but that doesn't mean he can't close a gap, or that spiderman can even capitalize for that matter...

Originally posted by Logan 87
Yeah ok thats why Spiderman said wolverine is far the best person he ever faced.

I hate these arguments, it all relies on inconsistent stuff and words like this, that proves nada.

These aren't convincing anyone that he wins.

What about titania, or electro who wolverine cannot beat?

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Then why do you say it.

I feel your spelling is bad, but I don't have to post it, that makes me no more correct than you.

If we don't have anything nice to say....

but you DO post it...quite a bit...

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
I hate these arguments, it all relies on inconsistent stuff and words like this, that proves nada.

These aren't convincing anyone that he wins.

What about titania, or electro who wolverine cannot beat?

that's debateable...wolverine can take down hulk, he can beat titania..

Originally posted by jinzin
hero work-saving people...

wolverine's work- hurting/killing people....he's done A LOT more...

strength nor bookworm intelligence overtake higher level durability and superior strategic intelligence....

outmaneuvered okay, but for how long? outdodged, again how long?
outranged, I agree with you completely, but that doesn't mean he can't close a gap, or that spiderman can even capitalize for that matter...

Spiderman doesn't try to kill, just to save, that is MUCH harder than killing, a spiderman in high gear is too much for logan.

Logan doesn't have the physicality to keep Spiderman worried about fatigueing.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Have you tried to beat up someone 2x stronger than you, how about 10x or 80x? Much faster and can dodge, and outrange.

Can you beat up a polar bear, with technique.

Logan doesn't use that much training, and he doesn't really need to though.

logan does use that training.. alot and it's been noted over a hundred times...

Originally posted by jinzin
that's debateable...wolverine can take down hulk, he can beat titania..

YOu don't believe that?

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Spiderman doesn't try to kill, just to save, that is MUCH harder than killing, a spiderman in high gear is too much for logan.

Logan doesn't have the physicality to keep Spiderman worried about fatigueing.

yes he does, his healing factor makes sure of that..besides he's already outlasted spiderman there..

Originally posted by jinzin
but you DO post it...quite a bit...

It makes neither of us right does it?

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
YOu don't believe that?

can titania beat hulk?

unless you were reffering to wolverine vs. hulk...not 6 out of 10 or anything but he can definitely win some...just like spidey can vs. titania...

Originally posted by jinzin
yes he does, his healing factor makes sure of that..besides he's already outlasted spiderman there..

I'm not talking about logan getting tired, I'm talking about him giving peter trouble, peter dodges logan fine...

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
I started posting that YESTERDAY, you've been posting trains of thought, were I've had to water down my arguments for the longest.

It makes neither of us right does it?

nope. at least this I can agree on.

Originally posted by jinzin
can titania beat hulk?

unless you were reffering to wolverine vs. hulk...not 6 out of 10 or anything but he can definitely win some...just like spidey can vs. titania...

Wolverine'snot beating a hulk who's enraged, wanting to fight him with his normal abilities. He isn't he fared badly in his starting match, he is pushover to the hulk.

Claws arent everything.