According to the rules where does this fight take place jinzin? (And I hate to say it but your " in the middle of nowhere" arena gives quite a few characters tremendous advantages and others disadvantages.) In order for the battleground to be equal to both characters then some creativity must be used....like including trampolines for the characters that can't jump that high when they fight an opponent that can.Throughout this debate you have continuously tried to act as if the characters' bios weren't of any importance until there was a SHIELD file that put Wolverine at 1 mark above Spider-man in an OVERALL rating. For the duration of the debate you have stated that Spider-man's physical abilities where not far beyond Wolverines and their speed was almost equal. All this time and still today Wolverine is not acredited for even having muscles that are anywhere near as tough as Spider-mans he's noted for having unbreakable BONES and is therefore incapable of being pulped.
I agree with the rating as Wolverine would get up if a blast that was capable of killing everyone within a mile radius took Spidey and Cap out despite their shielding. He has a healing factor and that means extra lives... That, coupled with unbreakable bones and claws that can pierce and rend any metal, and don't forget the skills.....and he's one point above Spider-man.
Well Spider-man doesn't have extra lives and can die from a fatal wound. He can have his bones broken and he has nothing that he can cut anything with. He hasn't even trained in a martial art as far as I know. So why is he only one point below Wolverine?
He is vastly superior to Wolverine in EVERY physical category and is noted for it. To him Wolverine would be moving quite a bit faster than an extremely fast human and if the bios are correct that is still SLOW compared to Spider-man who has had super-speed since his abilities were first noted.
At his best Spider-man doesn't get hit by ANYTHING and doesn't miss when he shoot's his webbing.
At his best Wolverine gets hit and shrugs off EVERY blow no matter how powerful it is, healing instantaneously from everything.
At his worst Spider-man gets hit alot, dodging only lethal blows and blasts, gets ko'ed or barely survives an encounter.
At his worst Wolverine rushes foolishly into battle and is knocked unconscious by opponents like Cap.
Sooo If we will use both characters at their best, worst or anywhere in between Wolverines power lies in his abilitiy to shrug off physical damage and Spider-mans power lies in his ability to avoid recieving physical damage. Before Spider-man would recieve a fatal blow from Wolverine, Wolverine would receive a web-cocooning. It's Spidey's trademark to avoid getting hit and it's Wolverines trademark to get hit and recover. Only problem is that getting hit by the webbing doesn't have anything to do with physical damage. That would come after getting cocooned.
Wolverine said once that a clap from the hulk almost killed him. ( You wolverine fans should be aware of that fight with the gray hulk ) The hulk said that Spider-man hurt him when he boxed HIS ears. (the green hulk) If Spider-man boxed Wolverines ears he would be unconscious (because it was the enhanced senses that made the hulks clap near fatal remember?)
And enough with the ridiculous notion that Wolverine's claws will negate a STREAM of webbing! That's equivalent to saying that he'll slash away the water from a super soaker and won't get wet! Also Spider-man didn't have organic webbing when this thread was started. It's a very recent thing.
Wolverines not fast enough to avoid getting hit by webbing from every angle and especially if he's falling down. (Who want's to say that Spidey CAN'T put him on his ass and web him up while he's reeling?) 😮💨